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How does this comment contribute to the discussion in any meaningful way? Microsoft's browser is actually quite advanced when it comes to new JavaScript feature
by mevile 10y ago
How does this comment contribute to the discussion in any meaningful way? Microsoft's browser is actually quite advanced when it comes to new JavaScript features. The biggest problem for developers with Edge is that it requires Windows, a slow internet based testing service, or a VM to test. But really if it works in Chrome, Safari and Firefox it generally works in Edge as well.
- albasha 10y agoI tell you how. Posts like this claiming they are cutting-edge will enable to once again take control of browsers and once they are at the top, they will start playing their monopoly game. And the cycle will start again.
- KirinDave 10y agoThe entire ecosystem has changed. Microsoft really isn't in a position to "embrace and extend" and they probably never will be again. And they're taking more radical steps towards ongoing transparency and fairness than most other companies I could name, including things like their compiler & runtime licensing, pledges to never use over API use, directly supporting their cloud service competitors. I'm not sure what value your grudge gives to you, but let me offer you a new target for hate: The only people given a free license to lock down the ecosystem from hardware all the way out to setting prices and fees in the software market is Apple, I guess. THEY won't betray us!
- ceejayoz 10y ago> Posts like this claiming they are cutting-edge will enable to once again take control of browsers and once they are at the top, they will start playing their monopoly game. Microsoft employs smart people. It has become clear that long-term, that approach simply doesn't work. There are legal consequences to being an abusive monopoly, and on top of that we've seen that the software ecosystem routes around the bottleneck pretty rapidly.
- blibble 10y agoI dunno, it seemed to work pretty well. if they hadn't undermined themselves by developing XMLHTTPRequest I wonder if we'd still be on Windows using IE
- ceejayoz 10y agoIt worked well for a while. Then the DOJ nearly broke up the company, IE6 became a pariah, and they've had to spend the last decade rebuilding trust. People will be more wary in the future, as well.
- roundup76 10y agoWell, I suppose it's just a reminder for those who (fortunately) didn't have to "enjoy" the Internet Explorer years a decade ago, where 99% of the internet was designed for a bad, proprietary and buggy browser which got there not for its merits, but for the nastiest market dominance tricks. I'm afraid it would be happening again should we all give Microsoft the chance.
- albasha 10y agoI am suspecting the people down voting are too young and didn't experience IE6 hell.
- Arainach 10y agoAnd those who claim that IE got dominance "not for its merits" clearly never used Netscape. IE6 lasted so long that it stagnated, but when they came out, IE5 and IE6 were well ahead of the competition.
- albasha 10y agoActually I used Netscape and many of its derivatives. That doesn't grant Microsoft a pass.
- serge2k 10y agoor they realize that whining about IE from a decade ago does nothing to further discussion.