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My point is people expect privacy even when sharing information with third parties. Just because your xbox kinect is always watching and amazon echo listening -
by smokeyj 10y ago
My point is people expect privacy even when sharing information with third parties. Just because your xbox kinect is always watching and amazon echo listening - doesn't mean the average consumer doesn't expect privacy.
My question is, why limit dragnet surveillance to only metadata? It seems arbitrary to not also record full transcripts -- if we really don't have any expectation to privacy.
- tptacek 10y agoWe may not have an expectation of privacy in the specific records the phone company keeps to bill us and manage their networks, but we have always had an expectation of privacy in the contents of the calls themselves.
- rhino369 10y agoPeople don't expect privacy when sharing information with third parties, they expect confidentiality. But the law doesn't respect that. If you tell me in confidence, that you kidnapped the Limburg baby, I can legally tell whoever I want. I can even be forced by the government to tell them everything I know. The difference is that phone companies don't record full transcripts. Just like my kinect isn't recording my room right now. That's why I have a reasonable expectation of privacy even though there is a kinect in the room. But I don't have an expectation that the requests I make to xbox is private.
- april1stislame 10y agoSo... You're telling us Snowden isn't guilty of treason. All he did was leak CONFIDENTIAL files...
- zimpenfish 10y agocf Petraeus. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-decides-no-further-punishment-warranted-for-petraeus/2016/01/30/b503348e-c767-11e5-8965-0607e0e265ce_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/penta... > Specifically, Petraeus acknowledged providing eight notebooks containing highly classified material to his biographer, Paula Broadwell, in the waning days of his Army career. And yet > In April, after a lengthy investigation by the FBI that disgraced the onetime military hero, Petraeus pleaded guilty in federal court in North Carolina to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified materials. He was sentenced to two years of probation and fined $100,000.
- april1stislame 10y agoAnd yet all you have as a rebuttal is someone who PLEADED guilty, not who was convicted... I love the US kangaroo courts, where hardly anybody ever goes to trial.