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Can you elaborate on this? I've tried Chromium once and again, but always fall back to Firefox as it feels better to me. Direct reasons are the address bar func

Can you elaborate on this? I've tried Chromium once and again, but always fall back to Firefox as it feels better to me. Direct reasons are the address bar functionality and better privacy support out of the box, but also some generic feel is somehow just more familiar to me. Firefox does have global freezes on particularly heavy pages due to the single process model. It's rare enough not to bother me much though. As a tip, the Firefox Android version allows add-ons -- uBlock most critically. It's just great.

SimeVidas 10y ago
Multi-process is being tested in Firefox Beta right now, according to https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Schedule https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Schedule.
- endemic 10y ago
  Anecdotally, e10s has made me go back to Firefox.
- epoch1970 10y ago
  While some progress is being made, it worries me that it's taking so long to get this functionality into the release versions. I'm not suggesting it should be rushed out, of course. But the Electrolysis efforts date back to 2009, if not earlier. That's a long time to make users wait!
  - tetromino_ 10y ago
    Electrolysis breaks extensions that use low-level APIs designed in the single-process era [1]. This breakage drew the ire of a vocal minority of Firefox users enamored of such extensions, and AFAICT that's the major reason why e10s has taken such a long time to get enabled in release. [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Working_with_multiprocess_Firefox https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Working_with_mul...
  - cpeterso 10y ago
    While the original Electrolysis work dates back to 2009, the project was put on hold for a couple years in the middle. Development resumed in mid-2013, as the archive of meeting notes shows: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis/Meetings https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis/Meetings
  - AckSyn 10y ago
    Why does this concern you? Mozilla, isn't as cavalier as Google as far as releases are. I remember a time in chrome's beginning it was horribly unstable but patched often. It was the lure of constant quick updates that kept a lot of people eager for the "fixes".
    - verroq 10y ago
      Grandgrandparent: firefox is shit because it doesn't have feature X which causes it to crash if a single tab becomes unresponsive grandparent: firefox is building it parent: it tooks them 7 years and it is still not done? you: why do you care, who cares if mozilla updates slow? me: ???
  - nnethercote 10y ago
    I heard a nice description of Eletrolysis that at least partly explains why it has taken so long: it's the single largest change that has ever been made to Firefox.
vthallam 10y ago
I use chrome as the default browser on Windows at work and on Mac at home. Though i tried firefox before on both OS, i feel it's nothing compared to chrome. I feel it's very heavy, takes more time to load pages than chrome.
Aldo_MX 10y ago
> Firefox does have global freezes That's precisely the issue, it doesn't matter if Firefox just freezes for 250ms, it's enough to be perceptible and annoy me.
- endemic 10y ago
  I had the same problem, and it was annoying as heck. Try running a multi-process build (Nightly/Aurora/Beta) and see if your experience gets any better.
  - sp332 10y ago
    For some reason the freezes are much worse in multi-process. Certain sites freeze it up consistently; newegg.com for example I just measured 67 seconds the whole window was completely unresponsive. If I disable e10s it runs fine.
- asimuvPR 10y ago
  I'm a hardcore Firefox user. Its been my browser of choice since it came out. I'm a true Mozillian to the heart. But it kills me that I can mostly keep one window open with less than 15 tabs on a Macbook that has 16GB of ram and a fast SSD. I currently have 9 tabs/1 window and its using up 3.13GB of memory. None of the tabs have heavy Javascript processes.
  - fabrice_d 10y ago
    Do you have add-ons installed? You should really not get this memory usage on a clean installation. One way to see what's going on is to open a tab to `about:memory` and take a measure?
    - asimuvPR 10y ago
      I only have uBlock origin. I ran the memory report and saved the results. Would you be interested in it? I could email it to you if thats OK.
szatkus 10y ago
For me Firefox UI feels... well, sluggish. Not sure why. OTOH I happily use Firefox Android.

SimeVidas 10y ago

Multi-process is being tested in Firefox Beta right now, according to https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Schedule https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Schedule.

endemic 10y ago
Anecdotally, e10s has made me go back to Firefox.
epoch1970 10y ago
While some progress is being made, it worries me that it's taking so long to get this functionality into the release versions. I'm not suggesting it should be rushed out, of course. But the Electrolysis efforts date back to 2009, if not earlier. That's a long time to make users wait!
- tetromino_ 10y ago
  Electrolysis breaks extensions that use low-level APIs designed in the single-process era [1]. This breakage drew the ire of a vocal minority of Firefox users enamored of such extensions, and AFAICT that's the major reason why e10s has taken such a long time to get enabled in release. [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Working_with_multiprocess_Firefox https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/Working_with_mul...
- cpeterso 10y ago
  While the original Electrolysis work dates back to 2009, the project was put on hold for a couple years in the middle. Development resumed in mid-2013, as the archive of meeting notes shows: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis/Meetings https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis/Meetings
- AckSyn 10y ago
  Why does this concern you? Mozilla, isn't as cavalier as Google as far as releases are. I remember a time in chrome's beginning it was horribly unstable but patched often. It was the lure of constant quick updates that kept a lot of people eager for the "fixes".
  - verroq 10y ago
    Grandgrandparent: firefox is shit because it doesn't have feature X which causes it to crash if a single tab becomes unresponsive grandparent: firefox is building it parent: it tooks them 7 years and it is still not done? you: why do you care, who cares if mozilla updates slow? me: ???
- nnethercote 10y ago
  I heard a nice description of Eletrolysis that at least partly explains why it has taken so long: it's the single largest change that has ever been made to Firefox.

vthallam 10y ago

I use chrome as the default browser on Windows at work and on Mac at home. Though i tried firefox before on both OS, i feel it's nothing compared to chrome. I feel it's very heavy, takes more time to load pages than chrome.

Aldo_MX 10y ago

> Firefox does have global freezes That's precisely the issue, it doesn't matter if Firefox just freezes for 250ms, it's enough to be perceptible and annoy me.

endemic 10y ago
I had the same problem, and it was annoying as heck. Try running a multi-process build (Nightly/Aurora/Beta) and see if your experience gets any better.
- sp332 10y ago
  For some reason the freezes are much worse in multi-process. Certain sites freeze it up consistently; newegg.com for example I just measured 67 seconds the whole window was completely unresponsive. If I disable e10s it runs fine.
asimuvPR 10y ago
I'm a hardcore Firefox user. Its been my browser of choice since it came out. I'm a true Mozillian to the heart. But it kills me that I can mostly keep one window open with less than 15 tabs on a Macbook that has 16GB of ram and a fast SSD. I currently have 9 tabs/1 window and its using up 3.13GB of memory. None of the tabs have heavy Javascript processes.
- fabrice_d 10y ago
  Do you have add-ons installed? You should really not get this memory usage on a clean installation. One way to see what's going on is to open a tab to `about:memory` and take a measure?
  - asimuvPR 10y ago
    I only have uBlock origin. I ran the memory report and saved the results. Would you be interested in it? I could email it to you if thats OK.

szatkus 10y ago

For me Firefox UI feels... well, sluggish. Not sure why. OTOH I happily use Firefox Android.