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I don't think the moral considerations are that difficult. Would you accept NSA surveillance if they said it was so that your descendants could understand you,

I don't think the moral considerations are that difficult. Would you accept NSA surveillance if they said it was so that your descendants could understand you, and "For Science"?

donutz 10y ago
Not the best analogy. The anthropologists aren't trying to root out wrongdoers in this tribe by surveilling the whole lot of them.
- codezero 10y ago
  I know, but the NSA could argue they aren't trying to root out wrongdoers either. What would they do if their camera recorded a violent act between tribe members, or against a child? They might feel obligated to act, or not act, either of which could have dangerous consequences.
  - TeMPOraL 10y ago
    That's why such hypothetical NSA should adopt the Prime Directive[0]. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Directive
Kristine1975 10y ago
No?
redsummer 10y ago
My background is Swedish. I would be happy to view video of Viking ancestors, for instance. I guess it's a question of the distance of time.
jerf 10y ago
The question doesn't work because I'm leaving a footprint a mile wide already. Anyone who uses Facebook in a serious way has already said "yes" to your question. It has often occurred to me that my own children could be reading through my comments years from now. Probably not. There's a lot of them. Of course if they can search, well, who knows.
- codezero 10y ago
  Good point, however, Facebook doesn't really contain private moments/thoughts, which is what a bunch of hidden cameras would capture. Facebook allows you to write your story and omit details you choose. Also, younger people have flocked to more ephemeral forms of communication (or so I've heard, I don't claim to back that up with numbers). All the same, I think you make a good point.
devishard 10y ago
That frames it as if it were your choice. If I trusted the NSA to actually do that, I'd have no problem with it. The problem is, I don't have the choice of being surveilled by the NSA, and I don't trust them. Just as the Senigalese would have no choice in redsummer's proposal, and many reasons not to trust outsiders.
- codezero 10y ago
  I agree with you, unfortunately I used a bad analogy and didn't make my point :/
TeMPOraL 10y ago
You are right, they aren't difficult. The answer is: yes, of course I would.

I don't think the moral considerations are that difficult. Would you accept NSA surveillance if they said it was so that your descendants could understand you, and "For Science"?

donutz 10y ago

Not the best analogy. The anthropologists aren't trying to root out wrongdoers in this tribe by surveilling the whole lot of them.

codezero 10y ago
I know, but the NSA could argue they aren't trying to root out wrongdoers either. What would they do if their camera recorded a violent act between tribe members, or against a child? They might feel obligated to act, or not act, either of which could have dangerous consequences.
- TeMPOraL 10y ago
  That's why such hypothetical NSA should adopt the Prime Directive[0]. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Directive

Kristine1975 10y ago

No?

redsummer 10y ago

My background is Swedish. I would be happy to view video of Viking ancestors, for instance. I guess it's a question of the distance of time.

jerf 10y ago

The question doesn't work because I'm leaving a footprint a mile wide already. Anyone who uses Facebook in a serious way has already said "yes" to your question. It has often occurred to me that my own children could be reading through my comments years from now. Probably not. There's a lot of them. Of course if they can search, well, who knows.

codezero 10y ago
Good point, however, Facebook doesn't really contain private moments/thoughts, which is what a bunch of hidden cameras would capture. Facebook allows you to write your story and omit details you choose. Also, younger people have flocked to more ephemeral forms of communication (or so I've heard, I don't claim to back that up with numbers). All the same, I think you make a good point.

devishard 10y ago

That frames it as if it were your choice. If I trusted the NSA to actually do that, I'd have no problem with it. The problem is, I don't have the choice of being surveilled by the NSA, and I don't trust them. Just as the Senigalese would have no choice in redsummer's proposal, and many reasons not to trust outsiders.

codezero 10y ago
I agree with you, unfortunately I used a bad analogy and didn't make my point :/

TeMPOraL 10y ago

You are right, they aren't difficult. The answer is: yes, of course I would.