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It appears this is about contact with a different people, the Jarawa, I don't see anything indicating contact with the Sentinelese except the caption to the pho
by codezero 10y ago
It appears this is about contact with a different people, the Jarawa, I don't see anything indicating contact with the Sentinelese except the caption to the photo, is there any documented evidence? It appears the author has incorrectly labeled any tribe on the Andaman Islands as "Sentinelese."
- ianhawes 10y agoThe article is formatted oddly, but the middle section starting at "On January 4, 1991, MV Tarmugli," talks about the actual encounter with the Sentinelese.
- codezero 10y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11714639 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11714639 I don't think this is contact with the Sentinelese, but with the Jarawa, another tribe on the same chain of islands.
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- takee 10y agoThe article gives both description and photographic proof of the contact with the sentinelese people.
- codezero 10y agoSee my edited comment – they have a photo of contact with a tribal people, there are many tribes on the Andaman Islands, not just the Sentinelese, and there is no documented contact between the Sentinelese and outsiders since 1880, which was just an abduction, not really contact. The photos here appear to show contact with a Jawara tribe, and are incorrectly labeled as Sentinelese.
- ealexhudson 10y agoOnly two of the photos are captioned as being Sentinelese, the rest are captioned as being Jawara?
- codezero 10y agoRight, and I am arguing that these are incorrectly labeled because there's no authentic source showing such contact, so something has been lost in translation wherein Andaman Islanders are being called Sentinelese.
- astine 10y agoDo you have any source for those particular photos and videos being from the other Andaman islands? I've seen the video before and it was labelled then as being of the Sentinelese. I feel that if it were of a different tribe, then you'd be able to find the original context and the actual tribe it was.
- codezero 10y agoThere are lots of photos of the other tribes, honestly, the garb they wear is pretty similar, so I don't think that would refute anything. All I want is some more official documentation of this interaction. If the Indian government just sent people over to throw coconuts onto an island and didn't have any official documentation of the trip, or research that the trip resulted in, a story about it more than 20 years later doesn't hold a lot of weight for me. As you can see, this is just me being a bit pedantic, so if others want to take this as a source of truth, they are welcome to do so, I'd just like to know why they think this is authoritative.
- skepicurean 10y agoIt appears you didn't closely read the article because it documents two separate events: 1. The author's meeting with the Sentinelese. 2. The author's meeting with the Jarawa. You are correct that most of the photos are from the meeting with the Jarawa and that much of the article describes the author's time with the Jarawa but there is a segment which explicitly describes the meeting with the Sentinelese, separate from the Jarawa meetings.
- codezero 10y agoI am saying that the author is using Sentinelese interchangeably with Jarawa/Andaman incorrectly. The only reference I can find for such contact is a blog post and a 1993 news article that appears anecdotal. I'd like to see the journal article written about this contact by the Anthropological Survey of India which funded the contact with the Andaman Islanders, but I can't find a source, leading me to believe it didn't happen as described.
- x1798DE 10y agoAccording to Wikipedia, Sentinelese is apparently (based on other encounters) ,not mutually intelligible with Onge, which does seem to be an inconsistency in the idea that she heard them asking for coconuts in Onge.
- stevecalifornia 10y agoYou didn't read the article. She landed on North Sentinel island and interacted with the Sentinelese. Then, later in the article it focuses on Jarawa.
- sampo 10y ago> I don't see anything indicating contact with the Sentinelese except the caption to the photo, is there any documented evidence? While in theory a similar looking beach could be anywhere, and the native people could be of any tribe, in the first photo the visitors are standing in water, offering coconuts. The other tribes live in the mainland of Andaman island, so when meeting them you would more probably arrive on foot on land. This is some, perhaps indirect, indication that the visitors arrived on a boat, and the photo really is from where the caption says it is.
- codezero 10y agoJust let me know where the source of the information is.