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same as a self driving car

by brixon 10y ago

lgieron 10y ago
How does it work for self-driving cars then? In case of regular cars, you go to jail for vehicular manslaughter when you brake the traffic laws and in effect kill someone. My guess is that, if the driver of a self-driving car decides to press the "auto drive" button and the car violates traffic laws and kills someone, it's still the driver who's responsible. The self-driving features are not deemed safe by law and are not meant to replace a driver. It may change when self-driving cars are actually legalized as a thing (as it is currently discussed in California), but I can't imagine the current designs being close to passing a proper homologation process.
- joncrocks 10y ago
  If I buy a car, it malfunctions in such a way that was not predictable by a reasonable driver and I use the vehicle in a completely reasonable way. As a result of the fault someone dies. Am I responsible for the death? The answer for the moment is that we haven't figured out the ethical and legal questions in this area yet.
- jhall1468 10y ago
  > In case of regular cars, you go to jail for vehicular manslaughter when you brake the traffic laws and in effect kill someone. But the truck won't do that. Break the law, that is. Unlike humans, its knowledge of traffic laws will be complete. It won't "break the law" in the sense that you are using the phrase. However, there are other ethical/moral issues (do we program a car to kill 1 person if it saves 3?).
  - bitJericho 10y ago
    I wrote a satirical article about this once. http://witscience.org/wit-helps-produce-safe-driverless-cars/ http://witscience.org/wit-helps-produce-safe-driverless-cars...
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    > Unlike humans, its knowledge of traffic laws will be complete. Its knowledge of the text may be, its knowledge of what that means in practical terms will probably not be; the law often specifies that action be "reasonable" or similar terms, in light of the conditions. A human trier of fact may well find that the actions of an automated system -- especially in combinations of circumstances its creators did not specifically account for -- is unreasonable.

same as a self driving car

by brixon 10y ago

same as a self driving car

How does it work for self-driving cars then? In case of regular cars, you go to jail for vehicular manslaughter when you brake the traffic laws and in effect kill someone. My guess is that, if the driver of a self-driving car decides to press the "auto drive" button and the car violates traffic laws and kills someone, it's still the driver who's responsible. The self-driving features are not deemed safe by law and are not meant to replace a driver. It may change when self-driving cars are actually legalized as a thing (as it is currently discussed in California), but I can't imagine the current designs being close to passing a proper homologation process.

joncrocks 10y ago
If I buy a car, it malfunctions in such a way that was not predictable by a reasonable driver and I use the vehicle in a completely reasonable way. As a result of the fault someone dies. Am I responsible for the death? The answer for the moment is that we haven't figured out the ethical and legal questions in this area yet.
jhall1468 10y ago
> In case of regular cars, you go to jail for vehicular manslaughter when you brake the traffic laws and in effect kill someone. But the truck won't do that. Break the law, that is. Unlike humans, its knowledge of traffic laws will be complete. It won't "break the law" in the sense that you are using the phrase. However, there are other ethical/moral issues (do we program a car to kill 1 person if it saves 3?).
- bitJericho 10y ago
  I wrote a satirical article about this once. http://witscience.org/wit-helps-produce-safe-driverless-cars/ http://witscience.org/wit-helps-produce-safe-driverless-cars...
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > Unlike humans, its knowledge of traffic laws will be complete. Its knowledge of the text may be, its knowledge of what that means in practical terms will probably not be; the law often specifies that action be "reasonable" or similar terms, in light of the conditions. A human trier of fact may well find that the actions of an automated system -- especially in combinations of circumstances its creators did not specifically account for -- is unreasonable.