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Which in itself isn't really valid. Under immense stress, memory fails. I'd wager facing a long prison sentence for a crime that will make you a big target in a

Which in itself isn't really valid. Under immense stress, memory fails. I'd wager facing a long prison sentence for a crime that will make you a big target in an already hostile environment would be pretty stressful.

dkersten 10y ago
I was going to comment the same thing. If I'd been imprisoned for 7 months, there's a good chance I'd forget my password manager master password too... I remember it now because I enter it multiple times a day. After 7 months, under duress and stress? I'm not sure if I would...
- SixSigma 10y ago
  I'm not so sure. It's going to be on your mind constantly, surely.
  - dkersten 10y ago
    I forgot my previous master password a month or two after I changed it. But the point is, after many months (eg 7) plus stress... many people would. Not everyone, but enough people that I don't think you can blanket say "you surely know it, hand it over".
    - SixSigma 10y ago
      But not while you were in prison for not revealing it. Surely you'd be lying there at night and passwords would be all you could think about! I keep going over where I went wrong in the exams I did a month ago and I've already had the results with all at 90%+ (yeah r/iamverysmart, I know)
      - dkersten 10y ago
        I think people are different. There was one rather important password that I hadn't used in a few months before I needed it. I tried for a week to remember before eventually resetting it. Of course, if I were arrested tomorrow, I'd be able to remember my master password. I'd probably still remember it a month from now too, but a few months later not so much. So the question is: if he was lying at first, but now no longer is, what does that mean for him, legally?
- oarsinsync 10y ago
  Meanwhile a laptop I didn't access for 3 months has a boot password (that I must not have needed for >3 months ontop of that) is now locked away and without any ability for me to login to. And that was without going to prison
  - mpnordland 10y ago
    Open it up and remove the CMOS battery for a while then replace it. That will remove a BIOS password. OTOH, if you encrypted the drive...
    - besselheim 10y ago
      Unfortunately this won't work on most modern systems where the password hash is held in nonvolatile memory, rather than a battery-backed volatile store.
    - oarsinsync 10y ago
      > if you encrypted the drive... Yep, LUKS AES-256. I seem to recall someone demonstrating how to crack LUKS for fun, but I can't remember where I found that article, nor enough keywords to find it again. I might just be failing at Google, mind.

dkersten 10y ago

I was going to comment the same thing. If I'd been imprisoned for 7 months, there's a good chance I'd forget my password manager master password too... I remember it now because I enter it multiple times a day. After 7 months, under duress and stress? I'm not sure if I would...

SixSigma 10y ago
I'm not so sure. It's going to be on your mind constantly, surely.
- dkersten 10y ago
  I forgot my previous master password a month or two after I changed it. But the point is, after many months (eg 7) plus stress... many people would. Not everyone, but enough people that I don't think you can blanket say "you surely know it, hand it over".
  - SixSigma 10y ago
    But not while you were in prison for not revealing it. Surely you'd be lying there at night and passwords would be all you could think about! I keep going over where I went wrong in the exams I did a month ago and I've already had the results with all at 90%+ (yeah r/iamverysmart, I know)
    - dkersten 10y ago
      I think people are different. There was one rather important password that I hadn't used in a few months before I needed it. I tried for a week to remember before eventually resetting it. Of course, if I were arrested tomorrow, I'd be able to remember my master password. I'd probably still remember it a month from now too, but a few months later not so much. So the question is: if he was lying at first, but now no longer is, what does that mean for him, legally?
oarsinsync 10y ago
Meanwhile a laptop I didn't access for 3 months has a boot password (that I must not have needed for >3 months ontop of that) is now locked away and without any ability for me to login to. And that was without going to prison
- mpnordland 10y ago
  Open it up and remove the CMOS battery for a while then replace it. That will remove a BIOS password. OTOH, if you encrypted the drive...
  - besselheim 10y ago
    Unfortunately this won't work on most modern systems where the password hash is held in nonvolatile memory, rather than a battery-backed volatile store.
  - oarsinsync 10y ago
    > if you encrypted the drive... Yep, LUKS AES-256. I seem to recall someone demonstrating how to crack LUKS for fun, but I can't remember where I found that article, nor enough keywords to find it again. I might just be failing at Google, mind.