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What is the advantage of using Rust for an iOS app over Swift, especially now that Swift is open source? I doubt the overheard of reference counting is going to

What is the advantage of using Rust for an iOS app over Swift, especially now that Swift is open source? I doubt the overheard of reference counting is going to be an issue for most iOS apps (although I'd be super interested to hear where it might).

danielvf 10y ago
The idea is to use it for cross platform libraries. Let's say you were building an RSS reader, you could reuse your same feed parsing code on Android, Windows, Mac, and Linux.
- santaclaus 10y ago
  But with Swift riding on top of the LLVM infrastructure similar to Rust, cross platform libraries are also possible with the Swift toolchain, no?
  - ultramancool 10y ago
    Sure - this may be me more appealing if you prefer Rust as a language or wrote some existing code in it but still want to be able to target iOS.
  - theresistor 10y ago
    Nothing about LLVM makes Swift inherently cross-platform. LLVM bitcode is not target independent.
    - Alphasite_ 10y ago
      I'm not sure I understand the relevance? Neither are rust libraries.
  - smoothdeveloper 10y ago
    Not sure about exposing Swift to C itself, while Rust has a clear "call from C" story. I think that's what was referred to.
weinzierl 10y ago
I submitted this primarily because it gives a good overview what obstacle you have to overcome to actually integrate a native library (Rust, C or C++, all the same) into an iOS application. If that is a practical approach, I'm not sure. It's an interesting approach nevertheless. For the Rust over Swift aspect: What appeals to me about Rust (besides the safety first attitude) is that it is truly platform agnostic. With Swift I'd fear that I end up with primarily an iOS app that somehow runs on other platforms. Given the recent activities for bringing Swift to Non-Apple platforms my fear might be ill-founded?

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What is the advantage of using Rust for an iOS app over Swift, especially now that Swift is open source? I doubt the overheard of reference counting is going to

by santaclaus 10y ago

danielvf 10y ago
The idea is to use it for cross platform libraries. Let's say you were building an RSS reader, you could reuse your same feed parsing code on Android, Windows, Mac, and Linux.
- santaclaus 10y ago
  But with Swift riding on top of the LLVM infrastructure similar to Rust, cross platform libraries are also possible with the Swift toolchain, no?
  - ultramancool 10y ago
    Sure - this may be me more appealing if you prefer Rust as a language or wrote some existing code in it but still want to be able to target iOS.
  - theresistor 10y ago
    Nothing about LLVM makes Swift inherently cross-platform. LLVM bitcode is not target independent.
    - Alphasite_ 10y ago
      I'm not sure I understand the relevance? Neither are rust libraries.
  - smoothdeveloper 10y ago
    Not sure about exposing Swift to C itself, while Rust has a clear "call from C" story. I think that's what was referred to.
weinzierl 10y ago
I submitted this primarily because it gives a good overview what obstacle you have to overcome to actually integrate a native library (Rust, C or C++, all the same) into an iOS application. If that is a practical approach, I'm not sure. It's an interesting approach nevertheless. For the Rust over Swift aspect: What appeals to me about Rust (besides the safety first attitude) is that it is truly platform agnostic. With Swift I'd fear that I end up with primarily an iOS app that somehow runs on other platforms. Given the recent activities for bringing Swift to Non-Apple platforms my fear might be ill-founded?