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These examples are so severe they're not analogous to the discussion. Pro athletes can still negotiate their own salaries and compensation packages beyond the u

These examples are so severe they're not analogous to the discussion. Pro athletes can still negotiate their own salaries and compensation packages beyond the union (the union negotiates the league minimum salary), and college athletes are basically slave labor.

arcticfox 10y ago
The vast majority of college athletic departments lose money due to the vast majority of athletes being revenue losers. It's more like a salary cap system with the salary cap set at a scholarship. The "league" basically breaks even after making enormous profits on a few athletes, and losing on all of the rest. Disingenuous to call it slave labor, especially considering any athlete can quit at any time for any reason.
- themartorana 10y ago
  The "league" has billion dollar revenue, multi million dollar coaching salaries, enormous capital expenditures, and more. They are not "break even." If in fact you believe that student athletes are not exploited to an unconscionable degree, here is just a little educational material to get you started. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/10/the-shame-of-college-sports/308643/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/10/the-sham... https://www.amazon.com/dp/1591846323/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_TTMoxbWF9FGEF https://www.amazon.com/dp/1591846323/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_TTMo... https://youtu.be/pX8BXH3SJn0 https://youtu.be/pX8BXH3SJn0 http://time.com/3586037/exploitation-is-everywhere-in-mens-college-basketball/ http://time.com/3586037/exploitation-is-everywhere-in-mens-c... https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/four-years-a-student-athlete-the-racial-injustice-of-big-time-college-sports https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/four-years-a-student-a... http://www.thenation.com/article/ncaa-poster-boy-corruption-and-exploitation/ http://www.thenation.com/article/ncaa-poster-boy-corruption-... https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2016/02/21/does-ncaa-exploit-student-athletes/OnIF5KDFbt6oYACJlBBsSP/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2016/02/21/does-ncaa-... And I'm not alone calling it slave labor. I'm just one in a massive chorus. https://www.google.com/search?q=ncaa+slavery&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari https://www.google.com/search?q=ncaa+slavery&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF...
  - arcticfox 10y ago
    It's an extremely complicated issue. Trust me, I understand the points in those articles. For those unacquainted, head's up that it is hardly as unambiguous as the parent post implies. https://www.google.com/?q=why+college+athletes+should+not+be+paid&gws_rd=ssl# https://www.google.com/?q=why+college+athletes+should+not+be...

arcticfox 10y ago

The vast majority of college athletic departments lose money due to the vast majority of athletes being revenue losers. It's more like a salary cap system with the salary cap set at a scholarship. The "league" basically breaks even after making enormous profits on a few athletes, and losing on all of the rest. Disingenuous to call it slave labor, especially considering any athlete can quit at any time for any reason.

themartorana 10y ago
The "league" has billion dollar revenue, multi million dollar coaching salaries, enormous capital expenditures, and more. They are not "break even." If in fact you believe that student athletes are not exploited to an unconscionable degree, here is just a little educational material to get you started. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/10/the-shame-of-college-sports/308643/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/10/the-sham... https://www.amazon.com/dp/1591846323/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_TTMoxbWF9FGEF https://www.amazon.com/dp/1591846323/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_TTMo... https://youtu.be/pX8BXH3SJn0 https://youtu.be/pX8BXH3SJn0 http://time.com/3586037/exploitation-is-everywhere-in-mens-college-basketball/ http://time.com/3586037/exploitation-is-everywhere-in-mens-c... https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/four-years-a-student-athlete-the-racial-injustice-of-big-time-college-sports https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/four-years-a-student-a... http://www.thenation.com/article/ncaa-poster-boy-corruption-and-exploitation/ http://www.thenation.com/article/ncaa-poster-boy-corruption-... https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2016/02/21/does-ncaa-exploit-student-athletes/OnIF5KDFbt6oYACJlBBsSP/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2016/02/21/does-ncaa-... And I'm not alone calling it slave labor. I'm just one in a massive chorus. https://www.google.com/search?q=ncaa+slavery&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari https://www.google.com/search?q=ncaa+slavery&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF...
- arcticfox 10y ago
  It's an extremely complicated issue. Trust me, I understand the points in those articles. For those unacquainted, head's up that it is hardly as unambiguous as the parent post implies. https://www.google.com/?q=why+college+athletes+should+not+be+paid&gws_rd=ssl# https://www.google.com/?q=why+college+athletes+should+not+be...