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The SidToday Files

117 points by aestetix 10y ago

jgrahamc 10y ago
The one thing I really want to know from these leaks is whether the chink I found in Kryptos IV is actually the route to break it. https://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/709648710398054400 https://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/709648710398054400
nomoba 10y ago
Why there is no upvote button in this post?
- jgrahamc 10y ago
  You already upvoted it?
  - nomoba 10y ago
    No, you see it?
    - retox 10y ago
      I see it. Tried to upload to imgur but I think you need an account. Any IMG hosts that don't? Imageshack has long since turned to the dark side.
      - nomoba 10y ago
        Thanks. I tried with different browser and it worked.
      - soylentcola 10y ago
        Off-topic, but I don't believe you need an account to upload to imgur. Honestly the only reason I use it is because it's the first site that pops into my head when I need to do a quick, no-fuss image upload where the link won't break anytime soon due to bandwidth limits a-la photobucket and friends.
slg 10y ago
>The articles are written in accessible, non-technical language and offer a window into the NSA’s culture and operations. They originate from within the Signals Intelligence Directorate, or SID, the NSA’s core spying division, and were provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden. Sorry, but since when is "offering a window into... culture and operations" whistleblowing? These articles are going to be crazy interesting, but I have a hard time believing they are things that deserve to be exposed. This is my problem with Snowden. If he stuck to the unconstitutional domestic spying stories, I would be his biggest fan. Instead he seems to have a problem with the idea of spying in general and is willing to release anything that puts it in a bad light. EDIT: After clicking through a few pages I came to this [1] which admits that this release is a big departure from the previous Snowden releases. It still doesn't really explain why this is being done, how this is in the public interests, or why this should qualify as whistleblowing. [1] - https://theintercept.com/2016/05/16/the-intercept-is-broadening-access-to-the-snowden-archive-heres-why/ https://theintercept.com/2016/05/16/the-intercept-is-broaden...
- retox 10y ago
  My understanding is that the quantity of documents that Snowden slurped up wasf too great for one person to filter, hence the need to provide them to the traditional media.
  - slg 10y ago
    This is likely true, but Snowden took all these documents and gave them to the press. He is therefore responsible for every document that is released. It doesn't matter who ultimately pulled the trigger on publishing the document, he is the one who orchestrated the whole leak. Also as far as I'm aware, there has not been a single instance in which Snowden has criticized Greenwald or anyone else for releasing a detail that he believes should have remained private. That seems like a tacit endorsement of everything that has been released.
    - jlgaddis 10y ago
      I don't know if he's criticized any releases or not but, yes, he did provide them with the documents. He also said that the journalists would be the ones to decide what got released, released but redacted, etc. Greenwald, et al, have complete discretion in this regard. I'm not sure that a lack of criticism counts as a tacit endorsement and I'm not sure what it would accomplish anyways. I would find it surprising if he even knows what is going to be released before the general public does -- that is, he probably finds out at the same time we do (when it's posted).

117 points by aestetix 10y ago

The one thing I really want to know from these leaks is whether the chink I found in Kryptos IV is actually the route to break it. https://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/709648710398054400 https://twitter.com/jgrahamc/status/709648710398054400

nomoba 10y ago

Why there is no upvote button in this post?

jgrahamc 10y ago
You already upvoted it?
- nomoba 10y ago
  No, you see it?
  - retox 10y ago
    I see it. Tried to upload to imgur but I think you need an account. Any IMG hosts that don't? Imageshack has long since turned to the dark side.
    - nomoba 10y ago
      Thanks. I tried with different browser and it worked.
    - soylentcola 10y ago
      Off-topic, but I don't believe you need an account to upload to imgur. Honestly the only reason I use it is because it's the first site that pops into my head when I need to do a quick, no-fuss image upload where the link won't break anytime soon due to bandwidth limits a-la photobucket and friends.

slg 10y ago

>The articles are written in accessible, non-technical language and offer a window into the NSA’s culture and operations. They originate from within the Signals Intelligence Directorate, or SID, the NSA’s core spying division, and were provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden. Sorry, but since when is "offering a window into... culture and operations" whistleblowing? These articles are going to be crazy interesting, but I have a hard time believing they are things that deserve to be exposed. This is my problem with Snowden. If he stuck to the unconstitutional domestic spying stories, I would be his biggest fan. Instead he seems to have a problem with the idea of spying in general and is willing to release anything that puts it in a bad light. EDIT: After clicking through a few pages I came to this [1] which admits that this release is a big departure from the previous Snowden releases. It still doesn't really explain why this is being done, how this is in the public interests, or why this should qualify as whistleblowing. [1] - https://theintercept.com/2016/05/16/the-intercept-is-broadening-access-to-the-snowden-archive-heres-why/ https://theintercept.com/2016/05/16/the-intercept-is-broaden...

retox 10y ago
My understanding is that the quantity of documents that Snowden slurped up wasf too great for one person to filter, hence the need to provide them to the traditional media.
- slg 10y ago
  This is likely true, but Snowden took all these documents and gave them to the press. He is therefore responsible for every document that is released. It doesn't matter who ultimately pulled the trigger on publishing the document, he is the one who orchestrated the whole leak. Also as far as I'm aware, there has not been a single instance in which Snowden has criticized Greenwald or anyone else for releasing a detail that he believes should have remained private. That seems like a tacit endorsement of everything that has been released.
  - jlgaddis 10y ago
    I don't know if he's criticized any releases or not but, yes, he did provide them with the documents. He also said that the journalists would be the ones to decide what got released, released but redacted, etc. Greenwald, et al, have complete discretion in this regard. I'm not sure that a lack of criticism counts as a tacit endorsement and I'm not sure what it would accomplish anyways. I would find it surprising if he even knows what is going to be released before the general public does -- that is, he probably finds out at the same time we do (when it's posted).