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> I always find it amazing to hear my coworkers who make six figures moving around letters on a screen and eating catered gourmet lunches in the company cafe go
by ssharp 10y ago
> I always find it amazing to hear my coworkers who make six figures moving around letters on a screen and eating catered gourmet lunches in the company cafe go on a screed about the amazingly overpaid people who teach their kids, deliver their mail, or pick up their garbage...
I think most people naturally undervalue the work of others and overvalue the work of themselves. They are underpaid, but people doing X are overpaid. So that plays directly into the public sector union stuff. A lot of people are also vehemently against the taxes they pay, so that also plays directly into anti public union rhetoric. I think those people also don't understand entirely how their tax dollars are spent. We saw that in the U.S. in the 2012 elections when President Obama talked about private companies not building the roads they drive their trucks on everyday. Rather than being logically interpreted as true and understanding that taxes get spent on infrastructure and that helps the economy, it was interpreted as the President telling private companies they weren't responsible for their company's success.
I would have guessed Canada's more liberal attitude might have caused better relations between the population and public unions, but it sounds like many of the same issues exist as they do in the U.S.
- bryanlarsen 10y ago"I would have guessed Canada's more liberal attitude might have caused better relations between the population and public unions, but it sounds like many of the same issues exist as they do in the U.S." Canada is like Hillary Clinton: left by American standards, but considered to be far to the right of center by most of the rest of the world.
- cmrdporcupine 10y agoCanada is liberal but not really socialist. I know this is not a distinction made in the US generally, but it is in much of the world. There is a significant 20%ish of the population here that could be called social democratic / socialist. But the majority of the population trends liberal, which I would characterize as very liberal on social / cultural issues, in favour of some social spending here and there (including our public health care system), activist role on environmental issues... but not in favour of social control of industries, not really pro-union, not really in favour of expanding social programs, swinging frequently towards an austerity focus when that's the way the wind is blowing... and very much middle-class/upper-middle-class in orientation.