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At Google, recruiters typically ask about salary as a data point, but neither they nor hiring managers make decisions about pay. I would encourage everyone to:

by patio11 10y ago

At Google, recruiters typically ask about salary as a data point, but neither they nor hiring managers make decisions about pay. I would encourage everyone to: a) Consider what the likelihood is that Google, which exists to organize the world's information, solicits information from a candidate which it entirely does not care about b) Consider quoting to Google "It is my understanding that your salaries are set by your People Operations team. As such, my prior salary apparently doesn't get included in your calculation. Awesome -- no need to discuss it then." as one of your dodges for the salary question, which you should practically never answer.

blazespin 10y ago
the recruiter needs it because he needs to know if you're bother going to say yes to an offer. His/Her job is to help broker the gap between you and the organization. They do need to know. I'm sure google finds out about salary levels by simply making offers and recording rejections. It also probably means they are more open to negotiation than other organizations because they have fewer data points. The post actually seems very very authentic to me, as cynical as I am about the process. My guess is they put their money where their mouth is on this one.
- Chris2048 10y ago
  It's common for a company to pay less/more depending on the candidate, ie DOE It's not common for a candidate to accept less/more depending on the job. As such, it seems more reasonable for the recruiter to state a range "$X-$Y" that they'd pay. No one can assume they'd pay $Y, because there no stated criteria for which level of experience they'd pay that much for. On the other hand, a candidate that specifies "$X-$Y" will likely get an offer of $X, because they've stated they'd be willing to go that low. Another way of stating this is - a candidate only has one product to sell. There's no expectation of getting more for paying more.
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- Chris2048 10y ago
  > the recruiter needs it because he needs to know if you're bother going to say yes to an offer Recruiters usually have roles to fill, rather than candidates they are trying to find roles for. They can give a range to a candidate, and ask if they'd be interested. They don't need to be given a number.
sokoloff 10y ago
One thing it would prevent is exactly the article you just commented on. I don't mind sharing my compensation information with prospective employers. It helps ensure that everyone is on roughly the same page. (If you are offering me substantially less than I make now, knowing that I'm happy in my current position, you might as well save both of our time and we can stop right here.)
- bdavisx 10y ago
  But they don't need to know your current compensation, they only need to know what you require if you take a new job.
dlor 10y ago
I don't think he's saying Google doesn't care about the data, he's saying we don't use that data point when determining the compensation for that candidate. Disclosure: I'm a hiring manager at Google and I've never seen the current salary information for candidates.

by patio11 10y ago

blazespin 10y ago

the recruiter needs it because he needs to know if you're bother going to say yes to an offer. His/Her job is to help broker the gap between you and the organization. They do need to know. I'm sure google finds out about salary levels by simply making offers and recording rejections. It also probably means they are more open to negotiation than other organizations because they have fewer data points. The post actually seems very very authentic to me, as cynical as I am about the process. My guess is they put their money where their mouth is on this one.

Chris2048 10y ago
It's common for a company to pay less/more depending on the candidate, ie DOE It's not common for a candidate to accept less/more depending on the job. As such, it seems more reasonable for the recruiter to state a range "$X-$Y" that they'd pay. No one can assume they'd pay $Y, because there no stated criteria for which level of experience they'd pay that much for. On the other hand, a candidate that specifies "$X-$Y" will likely get an offer of $X, because they've stated they'd be willing to go that low. Another way of stating this is - a candidate only has one product to sell. There's no expectation of getting more for paying more.
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Chris2048 10y ago
> the recruiter needs it because he needs to know if you're bother going to say yes to an offer Recruiters usually have roles to fill, rather than candidates they are trying to find roles for. They can give a range to a candidate, and ask if they'd be interested. They don't need to be given a number.

sokoloff 10y ago

One thing it would prevent is exactly the article you just commented on. I don't mind sharing my compensation information with prospective employers. It helps ensure that everyone is on roughly the same page. (If you are offering me substantially less than I make now, knowing that I'm happy in my current position, you might as well save both of our time and we can stop right here.)

bdavisx 10y ago
But they don't need to know your current compensation, they only need to know what you require if you take a new job.

dlor 10y ago

I don't think he's saying Google doesn't care about the data, he's saying we don't use that data point when determining the compensation for that candidate. Disclosure: I'm a hiring manager at Google and I've never seen the current salary information for candidates.