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I once dreamed of immigrating to the US and working in the Bay Area... but it's become apparent to me now that there's something inherently wrong with that coun
by gsklee 10y ago
I once dreamed of immigrating to the US and working in the Bay Area... but it's become apparent to me now that there's something inherently wrong with that country. I guess I'll go to Australia or Canada instead.
- i_feel_great 10y agoCome to Australia! We need as many skilled workers as possible.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoEase of receiving an Australian work permit/visa as a US citizen tech worker? Definitely interested in working outside of the US.
- adamseabrook 10y agoYou can self sponsor with this https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/189- https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/189- bit of mucking about to get but once you have it you can work for any company. Otherwise company will need a company to sponsor you on https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/457- https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/457- which is not hard to get but does limit the companies you can work for as not all will know how to do it.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoThank you!
- i_feel_great 10y agohttps://www.border.gov.au/ https://www.border.gov.au/. I don't know the details of the process though - I am a New Zealander, and I get right of residence automatically. There is always New Zealand of course, so you can live and travel between the two countries without hindrance once you get a passport in either.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoThank you for the reply!
- gsklee 10y agoWhat's the tech scene in New Zealand like? How are things there going compared to Australia?
- i_feel_great 10y agoNZ badly needs a tech scene. It has not produced anything of note like Atlassian in Australia. But the lifestyle is great. Only two time zones from the Australian east coast.
- gaius 10y agoIsn't Weta in NZ? They are 100x more interesting than Atlassian and their dull project management websites.
- tluyben2 10y agoI checked both AUS & NZ and despite the fact I can get in there through the company I work for, it does not seem easy or 'we need all the skilled people we can get'. The process seems not very easy in either country. I will live in AUS probably starting next year to manage the tech side from there and I will definitely check out NZ and maybe skip to there if possible as, for some reason (never been) it attracts me more. That said; I often need to go to China which is easy from AUS; I did not check how it is from NZ.
- dmix 10y agoCanada gets plenty of the smart ones that get rejected by the silly American H1B lottery system. Hopefully Trudeau welcomes even more of them.
- Fricken 10y agoAnd America gets plenty of Canada's smart ones. There's an estimated 350,000 of them working in just the Bay area. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/rob-magazine/lessons-from-canadas-silicon-valley-diaspora/article535544/?service=mobile http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/rob-magazi...
- tacticus 10y agoYep we have lots of coal for you to dig up.
- pcardh0 10y agoYou should go somewhere else, stuff like this happens all the time.
- pravda 10y agoCanada is cold. Australia is expensive and its government is corrupt. But getting to the point, you really shouldn't allow isolated acts like this to influence you. You're much more likely to be killed by the next earthquake in the Bay area then you are to be killed by dopey police officer.
- solipsism 10y agoYou're much more likely to be killed by the next earthquake in the Bay area then you are to be killed by dopey police officer. What makes you assume he/she would base this decision on simple self-interest rather than principles?
- gsklee 10y agoYou got it. Immigration is a decision that will not only affect me but also my better half, my family, and my offspring. It's totally about the environment, the society.
- mahmud 10y agoAustralia is corrupt? Compared to where? I immigrated here from the U.S. and the only contact I have with the "government" is my annual tax filing. Where previously I had nearly 6-monthly encounters with police just for (I guess) being a black/Muslim man. "Random" traffic stops escalating to inquiries into everything about my life. Long live Australia. [Edit: I DO routinely run into my neighborhood Australian police on Fridays, that's because we frequent the same local bar and catch up for drinks and games of pool.]
- bruceb 10y agoI hope the republic will survive without you.
- bigiain 10y agoOut of the frying pan... http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/04/nsw-police-to-get-extreme-powers-over-suspected-serious-crime-related-activity http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/04/nsw-po... "New South Wales police are on the verge of securing “extreme” new powers including to impose curfews on citizens, restrict who they spend time with or limit their communications, if they suspect involvement in “serious crime-related activity”. The new “serious crime prevention orders” (SCPO) are similar to the control orders used on suspected terrorists, but broadened to a range of other offences including theft, tax evasion, money laundering or homicide. Those acquitted of serious offences can still be issued a SCPO, as will people deemed to have engaged in conduct “likely to facilitate” a serious crime, defined as one punishable by at least five years’ prison." Welcome to my local police-state.
- pmiller2 10y ago> theft, tax evasion, money laundering or homicide. What the actual fuck? This is despicable no matter what. They just have to be "suspected" to be subject to these insane powers? But, the real insanity is that a crime like tax evasion is included in this list. Seriously. Tax evasion? Now, I know that the thing these all have in common is that they're commonly purpetrated by the mob and all, but tax evasion just doesn't rise to the level of homicide or even money laundering.
- mcbits 10y agoYou don't want tax evaders out after 9pm, prowling around and evading taxes in the shadows, do you? Actually, I suspect the tax evasion and money laundering are mostly referring to drug-related crime without calling it out explicitly and arousing (more) controversy.
- napperjabber 10y agoHate to say it, but Australia isn't much better. New Zealand is nice, I hear.
- dwaltrip 10y agoDon't get swept up by anecdotes. And also remember the inherent negativity of the news. (Not to say there isn't any problem, of course)