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He may be factually incorrect, but what is "horrible" about it? If he were right, wouldn't it be wrong for cities to offload their homeless problem on SF? If
by Crito 10y ago
He may be factually incorrect, but what is "horrible" about it? If he were right, wouldn't it be wrong for cities to offload their homeless problem on SF? If that were going on, what would be so "horrible" about sending them back, and asking all cities to take their fair share of the burden?
- azinman2 10y agoWhat's incorrect? And why assume I'm a he?
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- Crito 10y ago> may be I see others claiming you are incorrect, but haven't been arsed to actually read their sources to see who is actually right. Regardless, I see nothing "horrible" with what you've said.
- castis 10y ago> And why assume I'm a he? I'm curious. Why do you make this a talking point when you are, in fact, a he?
- azinman2 10y agoDo you know my gender identity? I don't believe we've ever met in real life. There's a big gender bias in tech already, and even within anonymous HN I see this in comments all the time where everyone is assumed male and few ever point it out directly. If we want balance in tech these kinds of assumptions need to get chipped away to make others feel welcome. It's the same thing with race, sexuality, etc.
- castis 10y agoedit: ugh, nevermind. your ridiculousness has nothing to do with gender bias.
- azinman2 10y agoThe form of a man? My point is there's no sex field next to my handle... It was just assumed. I'm guessing that you googled me to even start this discussion, and even then you have no idea what my gender identity is. These biases are the types that keep tech a men's club and make it hard for women to want to be around 99% guys.
- twoodfin 10y agoSan Francisco is not a sovereign state: It can't "send" US residents anywhere, they're free to go where they will. Similarly, SF can offer whatever "fair share" it likes, but can't force other cities to do the same.
- tomjen3 10y agoCouldn't SF enact a law to make it illegal to sleep on the streets? To not give an address to the police (could be a hotel room, etc), when asked? Then make a deal with some other place that has lots of cheap land that they handle the people who gets arrested for this (for a fee), which is still cheaper than rent in SF.
- twoodfin 10y agoPart a) is probably fine (though I am ignorant of the latest jurisprudence on what you can and cannot be required to tell police officers). I am certain that part b) is illegal. SF is free to arrest people locally for local crimes, but they can't 'extradite' those arrested to other states: If you're charged with a crime, it's your constitutional right to be tried "by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed"[1]. [1] http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment6.html http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment6.html
- dragonwriter 10y agoAfter conviction, they could ship them off to somewhere else for whatever punishment they were sentenced to; alternatively, they could just agree to drop the charges after arrest in return for them accepting one-way bus tickets. Actually, something like the latter (with or without formal arrest) has happened a lot with the homeless and/or mentally ill (and, especially, the mentally ill homeless.) Though, IIRC, SF has more frequently been cited as a destination than a source of those types of maneuvers.