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>I think people should just "smarten up" and stop buying locked-down smartphones from telecoms Even the Nexus phones don't have FM radio, probably for the same

>I think people should just "smarten up" and stop buying locked-down smartphones from telecoms Even the Nexus phones don't have FM radio, probably for the same reasons (Google makes money when you buy music through Google Play, or stream it via Google Play Music). https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-the-Google-Nexus-devices-have-the-FM-radio-hardware-or-app https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-the-Google-Nexus-devices-have...

roywiggins 10y ago
Moto G has it turned on. There was even a variant sold in Brazil that had a TV tuner!
- ryao 10y ago
  The Moto G having a TV antenna in it implies that this article is wrong: http://www.gizmag.com/worlds-smallest-tv-antenna/42558/ http://www.gizmag.com/worlds-smallest-tv-antenna/42558/ We can ignore the "without having to compromise" remark gizmag made. Every antenna makes some sort of compromise. That said, I now know what I want to see in my next phone. OTA TV. :)
  - roywiggins 10y ago
    Aha, I was mistaken, it came with a separate antenna, after all. Still cool, though. Or perhaps it could use headphones, like the FM radio? Most of the info is in Portuguese so I'm not sure. Ed: Here's an example of it being used. There's a little antenna plugged in the headphone port. Pretty neat trick. https://youtu.be/hfhx4OLi_Q4?t=282 https://youtu.be/hfhx4OLi_Q4?t=282
    - ryao 10y ago
      That trick is usually used for FM radios according to other comments. FM radio is in the VHF band, so that would probably also work for VHF TV broadcasts too (more so low VHF than high VHF). I doubt that it would work for UHF, although someone who has actually used it would need to confirm that. Most TV channels are on UHF and nearly all antennas are designed for UHF. They are able to get poor reception of the high VHF channels and no reception of the low VHF channels. The "world's smallest" TV antenna that I linked should have been designed for UHF too.

roywiggins 10y ago

Moto G has it turned on. There was even a variant sold in Brazil that had a TV tuner!

ryao 10y ago
The Moto G having a TV antenna in it implies that this article is wrong: http://www.gizmag.com/worlds-smallest-tv-antenna/42558/ http://www.gizmag.com/worlds-smallest-tv-antenna/42558/ We can ignore the "without having to compromise" remark gizmag made. Every antenna makes some sort of compromise. That said, I now know what I want to see in my next phone. OTA TV. :)
- roywiggins 10y ago
  Aha, I was mistaken, it came with a separate antenna, after all. Still cool, though. Or perhaps it could use headphones, like the FM radio? Most of the info is in Portuguese so I'm not sure. Ed: Here's an example of it being used. There's a little antenna plugged in the headphone port. Pretty neat trick. https://youtu.be/hfhx4OLi_Q4?t=282 https://youtu.be/hfhx4OLi_Q4?t=282
  - ryao 10y ago
    That trick is usually used for FM radios according to other comments. FM radio is in the VHF band, so that would probably also work for VHF TV broadcasts too (more so low VHF than high VHF). I doubt that it would work for UHF, although someone who has actually used it would need to confirm that. Most TV channels are on UHF and nearly all antennas are designed for UHF. They are able to get poor reception of the high VHF channels and no reception of the low VHF channels. The "world's smallest" TV antenna that I linked should have been designed for UHF too.