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I haven't driven any newer Toyotas, but do they not let you turn off the ignition while in motion/gear?

baguasquirrel 17y ago
You can, but then it's stuck in drive/neutral. Seeing that the brakes and neutral are still operable, it should not be an issue. I don't even know why people are being advised to turn off the ignition. Shifting to neutral while braking reduces the load on the engine.
- paulbaumgart 17y ago
  Wouldn't shifting to neutral make the engine rev up really high? Does the computer limit the RPMs to prevent damage?
  - anamax 17y ago
    > Wouldn't shifting to neutral make the engine rev up really high? Does the computer limit the RPMs to prevent damage? Yes, the computers do. However, if you're going to have an accident, engine damage is pretty low on the list of concerns, even if you ignore the fact that accidents cause engine damage.
    - wisty 17y ago
      Switching the engine off (if you can do it fast enough) should slow you down faster though. If you stay in gear with no ignition, the engine drag will brake you a bit.
      - anamax 17y ago
        > Switching the engine off (if you can do it fast enough) should slow you down faster though. Switching off the ignition can lock the steering.... You also lose the power-assist on the brakes. Given the above, you might not notice that you've also lost the power-assist on the steering.
        baguasquirrel 17y ago
        Switching the engine off in drive or neutral does not appear to lock the steering. You're right about the power-assist though.
        anamax 17y ago
        > Switching the engine off in drive or neutral does not appear to lock the steering. Turning the engine off with the key need not lock the steering, but it will lock the steering if you turn the key past off to lock. In a run-away engine scenario, are you likely to stop turning the key in a position that you don't use very often? Or, are you likely to turn it as hard as possible? There may be an interlock that is supposed to keep the key from locking the steering while in drive or neutral, but do you trust it? (What about manual transmission cars? I know that I can lock my steering while in gear. I forget whether it requires clutch-in though.)
illumin8 17y ago
The newer Toyotas all have push button start. Apparently, it's not very intuitive, unless you have a lot of experience building PCs with ATX power supplies, that you need to hold down the start button for 3-4 seconds to turn off the engine when it is in drive. It's almost like Microsoft designed these cars: "What? I push Start to shut down the car/computer?"
- Hexstream 17y ago
  http://www.jokesunlimited.com/jokes/if_microsoft_made_cars.html http://www.jokesunlimited.com/jokes/if_microsoft_made_cars.h...
- Zak 17y ago
  I really don't understand the push button start fad. Unless it's coupled to an RFID key or some such, it's less convenient than just turning the key.
  - illumin8 17y ago
    It is coupled with RFID chips in your key. I actually find it very convenient on my Hyundai. I can walk up to the car door and open it, it unlocks automatically because the RFID key is in my pocket. I can sit down and start the car and take off without ever removing my keys from my pocket. It's also very convenient for opening the trunk without a key as well. It has proximity sensors by the driver and passenger doors, as well as the trunk.

You can, but then it's stuck in drive/neutral. Seeing that the brakes and neutral are still operable, it should not be an issue. I don't even know why people are being advised to turn off the ignition. Shifting to neutral while braking reduces the load on the engine.

paulbaumgart 17y ago
Wouldn't shifting to neutral make the engine rev up really high? Does the computer limit the RPMs to prevent damage?
- anamax 17y ago
  > Wouldn't shifting to neutral make the engine rev up really high? Does the computer limit the RPMs to prevent damage? Yes, the computers do. However, if you're going to have an accident, engine damage is pretty low on the list of concerns, even if you ignore the fact that accidents cause engine damage.
  - wisty 17y ago
    Switching the engine off (if you can do it fast enough) should slow you down faster though. If you stay in gear with no ignition, the engine drag will brake you a bit.
    - anamax 17y ago
      > Switching the engine off (if you can do it fast enough) should slow you down faster though. Switching off the ignition can lock the steering.... You also lose the power-assist on the brakes. Given the above, you might not notice that you've also lost the power-assist on the steering.
      - baguasquirrel 17y ago
        Switching the engine off in drive or neutral does not appear to lock the steering. You're right about the power-assist though.
        anamax 17y ago
        > Switching the engine off in drive or neutral does not appear to lock the steering. Turning the engine off with the key need not lock the steering, but it will lock the steering if you turn the key past off to lock. In a run-away engine scenario, are you likely to stop turning the key in a position that you don't use very often? Or, are you likely to turn it as hard as possible? There may be an interlock that is supposed to keep the key from locking the steering while in drive or neutral, but do you trust it? (What about manual transmission cars? I know that I can lock my steering while in gear. I forget whether it requires clutch-in though.)

illumin8 17y ago

The newer Toyotas all have push button start. Apparently, it's not very intuitive, unless you have a lot of experience building PCs with ATX power supplies, that you need to hold down the start button for 3-4 seconds to turn off the engine when it is in drive. It's almost like Microsoft designed these cars: "What? I push Start to shut down the car/computer?"

Hexstream 17y ago
http://www.jokesunlimited.com/jokes/if_microsoft_made_cars.html http://www.jokesunlimited.com/jokes/if_microsoft_made_cars.h...
Zak 17y ago
I really don't understand the push button start fad. Unless it's coupled to an RFID key or some such, it's less convenient than just turning the key.
- illumin8 17y ago
  It is coupled with RFID chips in your key. I actually find it very convenient on my Hyundai. I can walk up to the car door and open it, it unlocks automatically because the RFID key is in my pocket. I can sit down and start the car and take off without ever removing my keys from my pocket. It's also very convenient for opening the trunk without a key as well. It has proximity sensors by the driver and passenger doors, as well as the trunk.