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It says legislation wouldn't apply to most farm animals, but it bans the poultry industry (unless they have some billionaire ready to adopt a bunch of roosters?

It says legislation wouldn't apply to most farm animals, but it bans the poultry industry (unless they have some billionaire ready to adopt a bunch of roosters?). One can easily see that the call to "limit the sales of dogs and cats to reputable breeders" is gonna make some of these bill authors unjustifiably rich at a higher likelihood than it protects a cat or dog.

tomjen3 10y ago
The poultry industry won't be hurt too much, since there is no good reason you can't sell rooster meat (actually they will typically be a little bit larger than the females) but I don't know if they do already sell them. The egg industry will be hit somewhat, since it will essentially double the price of eggs. Probably it will also hurt the pre-made goods industry (cookies, etc) and they will likely be forced out of Luxemberg. (Essentially nobody, other than people who raise chicks in their backyard, use the same chickens for eggs and meat, since different chickens species are optimized for either so this probably won't impact those who raise meat chickens much).
- chongli 10y ago
  You can't sell the rooster meat. The breed used for laying eggs doesn't produce nearly as much meat as actual meat breeds. The best you could manage is to turn them into stock for soup, something they already do with the laying hens when they get too old.
  - tomjen3 10y ago
    I must have been unclear, I meant that you could presumably sell the rooster meat from the meat chickens (at least my family eats rooster meat and it tastes great) but those who produce eggs would be foobar.
    - chongli 10y ago
      The vast majority of male chicks which are destroyed are of the egg-laying variety.
- maxerickson 10y ago
  Industrial broilers of both sexes are raised to slaughter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broiler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broiler I think it's also the case that requiring something else be done with males would have much less than 2x effect on the price of eggs. A hen will produce ~300 eggs a year. Whatever extra it might cost to raise the less efficient egg breed roosters for meat would be less than the cost of feeding a hen to produce that many eggs.
  - tomjen3 10y ago
    It is not just that they are less efficient, it is that they supposedly taste terrible.
    - maxerickson 10y ago
      The bad taste has the ring of folk wisdom.

tomjen3 10y ago

The poultry industry won't be hurt too much, since there is no good reason you can't sell rooster meat (actually they will typically be a little bit larger than the females) but I don't know if they do already sell them. The egg industry will be hit somewhat, since it will essentially double the price of eggs. Probably it will also hurt the pre-made goods industry (cookies, etc) and they will likely be forced out of Luxemberg. (Essentially nobody, other than people who raise chicks in their backyard, use the same chickens for eggs and meat, since different chickens species are optimized for either so this probably won't impact those who raise meat chickens much).

chongli 10y ago
You can't sell the rooster meat. The breed used for laying eggs doesn't produce nearly as much meat as actual meat breeds. The best you could manage is to turn them into stock for soup, something they already do with the laying hens when they get too old.
- tomjen3 10y ago
  I must have been unclear, I meant that you could presumably sell the rooster meat from the meat chickens (at least my family eats rooster meat and it tastes great) but those who produce eggs would be foobar.
  - chongli 10y ago
    The vast majority of male chicks which are destroyed are of the egg-laying variety.
maxerickson 10y ago
Industrial broilers of both sexes are raised to slaughter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broiler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broiler I think it's also the case that requiring something else be done with males would have much less than 2x effect on the price of eggs. A hen will produce ~300 eggs a year. Whatever extra it might cost to raise the less efficient egg breed roosters for meat would be less than the cost of feeding a hen to produce that many eggs.
- tomjen3 10y ago
  It is not just that they are less efficient, it is that they supposedly taste terrible.
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    The bad taste has the ring of folk wisdom.