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I don't see any content in that piece aside from: - University is free in Sweden. - Sweden has a high cost of living. - Young people in Southern Europe are m

I don't see any content in that piece aside from: - University is free in Sweden. - Sweden has a high cost of living. - Young people in Southern Europe are more likely to live at home, though the cause of this isn't clear. The title and start of this article sound like the author has some sort of agenda to promote, but there's so little substance that I still can't tell.

megalodon 10y ago
Yes, I have no idea where they got the "high price" thing from. Here in Sweden you get paid to study at the university (~$350/month for 9 months if studying full time). On top of that you can choose to take a highly beneficial (i.e. better than banks) loan of ~$850/month to cover for expenses like rent, etc. Many choose to take the loan because it's worth it.
alderz 10y ago
I think the article makes a point you are missing: early emancipation drives baby-making and family unit formation, which is one of the biggest sociological problems nowadays. This is the cause of student's debt, as they don't live off their parents. The clickbait title misses the thesis completely.
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- themartorana 10y ago
  In my circle of friends in the US - where we were from lower middle class families, didn't live at home past 19, didn't get any college tuition help from our families (there was none to give) and worked the entire time we were in school, still taking on large amounts of debt, none of us had a baby below 30, and for most closer to 35. In the reverse, kids that didn't leave home after high school (and seemed ill prepared for the shock of the real world) seemed to have children much younger, often while or shortly after attending community college, living with their parents or just down the street. My experience is highly anecdotal (and maybe stereotype-enforcing) and I would think that it differs depending on where you're from as well (I'm from the Northeast). But it's rather the opposite of this take-away.
curiouslurker 10y ago
Agreed. I skimmed over it and reached the same conclusion. I upvoted it anyway so it could get more comments and I could come back and get any other insights from the scary smart HN community!

megalodon 10y ago

Yes, I have no idea where they got the "high price" thing from. Here in Sweden you get paid to study at the university (~$350/month for 9 months if studying full time). On top of that you can choose to take a highly beneficial (i.e. better than banks) loan of ~$850/month to cover for expenses like rent, etc. Many choose to take the loan because it's worth it.

alderz 10y ago

I think the article makes a point you are missing: early emancipation drives baby-making and family unit formation, which is one of the biggest sociological problems nowadays. This is the cause of student's debt, as they don't live off their parents. The clickbait title misses the thesis completely.

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themartorana 10y ago
In my circle of friends in the US - where we were from lower middle class families, didn't live at home past 19, didn't get any college tuition help from our families (there was none to give) and worked the entire time we were in school, still taking on large amounts of debt, none of us had a baby below 30, and for most closer to 35. In the reverse, kids that didn't leave home after high school (and seemed ill prepared for the shock of the real world) seemed to have children much younger, often while or shortly after attending community college, living with their parents or just down the street. My experience is highly anecdotal (and maybe stereotype-enforcing) and I would think that it differs depending on where you're from as well (I'm from the Northeast). But it's rather the opposite of this take-away.

curiouslurker 10y ago

Agreed. I skimmed over it and reached the same conclusion. I upvoted it anyway so it could get more comments and I could come back and get any other insights from the scary smart HN community!