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Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?
It's kind of silly. There are design tools that don't let you write JavaScript. There are JavaScript tools that don't let you write server side JavaScript (or any other language). There are server aware tools that don't let you run on your own servers. And that's before discussion of collaboration et al.
Is there a reasonable workflow out there?
- TimJRobinson 11y agoHave you used Cloud9? It sounds like exactly what you're looking for. If you have and didn't like it what was it missing? (I work for Cloud9)
- mozumder 11y agoI use XCode to edit JS/HTML/CSS for front-end and Python for back-end, all with Git integration.
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- d--b 11y agoVisual Studio and Webstorm are the most complete I'd say. Surely you can use Eclipse or IntelliJ (with kotlyn). -- Wait, when you say "web ide", do you mean "to make web projects" or do you mean "web-based ide"?
- mr_O 11y ago> do you mean "to make web projects" or do you mean "web-based ide"? That is a really interesting question. For 1: If you have no money try NetBeans / Eclipse. In my experience eclipse can be a pain in the ass if you need certain plugins etc. Sometimes you have to search the web for repo-adresses that are compatible with your IDE-version and the other plugins and if you don't use a new version you may have trouble installing plugins from the marketplace. NB is pretty good for open source software and I prefer it to Eclipse. If you have the money / are a student (who don't have to pay), just use WebStorm / IntelliJ Idea. It is a really superior IDE and you don't want to use anything else once you tried the integration / workflow with it, it's just beautiful how things 'just work'. For 2: I checked out codio, but the price is really expensive and I'd rather use intelliJ etc. Depending on what you want to write something like Firefox Web IDE doesn't look that bad (https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Tools/WebIDE https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Tools/WebIDE). For the web I think the best thing would be to port atom.io to a webApp. This would be the next awesome thing ;-)
- blackoil 11y agoVisual Studio Community is also a free option. It is mostly feature complete, except few centered around enterprises. https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-community-vs.aspx https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-co...
- mevile 11y agoIf you set up a node.js project with Webstorm through the Webstorm UI and deploy with a plugin or built in feature you've pretty much get the most fully integrated IDE there is for node projects. It has testing built in, debugging inside the IDE, dynamic updates your browser, supports a ton of JavaScript libraries and npm as well as React and ES6/ES7 syntax. There's nothing else really like it. IntelliJ based browsers haven't been slow in a long time, but they're even faster now, just be sure you exclude node_modules and library directories by right clicking them and things will move pretty quickly.
- thejosh 11y agoAlso enable zero latency typing. Massive difference.
- HyprMusic 11y agoFor those who had never heard of this setting before, there is an interesting blog post about it on the JetBrains blog: http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2015/08/experimental-zero-latency-typing-in-intellij-idea-15-eap/ http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2015/08/experimental-zero-lat... tl;dr: Add "editor.zero.latency.typing=true" to the "idea.properties" file.
- kyriakos 11y agoDidnt't know about this option. Thanks
- TimJRobinson 11y agoJust wanted to note that every thing you mentioned is also in Cloud9 along with easy sharing of your sites with clients / workmates, collaboration and deploying to production with ssh workspaces. I switched from WebStorm (was using v9) to Cloud9 2 years ago and haven't looked back, for most Web Development jobs it makes more sense as you don't have to run a staging server to iterate on projects with clients (just send them a link) and you can collaborate in seconds. I now work at Cloud9 :) after using it a while I was convinced working online where all your tools work together in the cloud is the future. It's way easier to integrate it with the rest of your work flow when you don't have that desktop cloud barrier.
- sytse 11y agoYou probably mean for web projects. If you mean a browser based IDE instead your options are Koding, Nitrous.io, Cloud9, CodeAnywhere, Codio, and CodeEnvy (that is into Eclipse Che). We're integrating Koding with GitLab to give a very integrated workflow https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/12759 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/12759
- oxdigital 11y agoAlthough their focus has shifted to education, Codio is my favourite Web IDE https://codio.com/features/ide/ https://codio.com/features/ide/
- ganomi 11y agoAs a free alternative to let's say WebStorm i have been using NetBeans for some time. It integrates HTML, JS, Angular and CSS in a usable way and has many plugins (browser js debugging, nodejs). It is worth a try.
- brett40324 11y agoDitto. I naively ignored netbeans for years, and I regret not using it sooner. Its impressively robust for web development.
- spdegabrielle 11y agoThis thing? https://hyperdev.com https://hyperdev.com
- daurnimator 11y agoCloud 9? https://c9.io/ https://c9.io/
- bhanu423 11y agoI have been using C9 for years now and I found it to be the best of the lot. Its a shame, I cannot afford the premium subscription for now but would love to pay them for their gratitude and awesome product.
- zmmmmm 11y agoIf you can overlook the RAM consumption and occasional slowness, Eclipse is actually a pretty amazing tool as an integrated platform. I routinely edit client side, server side, HTML, CSS and multiple back end languages (python, PHP, Groovy) all in a single integrated setup including integrated debugging etc. I think for single language stuff there's nearly always something better, but at pulling it together I don't know anything as good as Eclipse (probably Visual Studio might be but I have not used recent versions in that capacity).
- devsquid 11y agoWeb Storm owns :)
- dochtman 11y agoMaybe have a look at this Mozilla stuff? http://blog.humphd.org/thimble-and-bramble/ http://blog.humphd.org/thimble-and-bramble/
- dakami 10y agoNo apparent backend integration.
- parisk 11y agoHi dakami, I think that SourceLair (https://www.sourcelair.com https://www.sourcelair.com) could fit your needs. It let's you work on Node.js web applications in your browser and write both client side (including React JSX) and server side JavaScript. You also get an HTTPS public URL (subdomain) that works out of the box with Node.js, while it integrates with Git and GitHub in order to collaborate and lets you deploy your projects to Heroku with a single click. You can try it out for free at https://www.sourcelair.com https://www.sourcelair.com. Disclaimer: I am one of the people who co-founded and built SourceLair.
- michaelwww 11y agoI'm one of those who won't sign up to try something. Let me try without any friction. If I like it, I'll sign up to try more advanced features and if those fit my needs I'll probably purchase. If I sign up to try and it doesn't seem to be what was promised, it just feels like you are collecting my email.
- bestest 11y agoThere's simply nothing better than WebStorm out there at the moment.
- tvvocold 11y agohttps://ide.coding.net https://ide.coding.net
- dafrankenstein2 11y agoThough its not an IDE, you can try using Visual Studio Code. This is free, open source and works in both Windows and Linux and have plugins available.Moreover, it itself is built using Javascript.
- frontendthing 11y agohow is the privacy situation with this microsoft product? Can you say anything about that or are you just blindly using it?
- ccvannorman 11y agoI once met someone named James Robey who was working on dom algebra, an os that works entirely out of html dom tags (no javascript). I saw him use a working demo of it online, but it may have evaporated.. feel free to google! ;-]
- ivan_burazin 11y agoHi Guys, I am the cofounder of Codeanywhere.com , so I can't say we are the best, but I would definitely appreciate it if you tried us out. We use Codeanywhere to actually build Codeanywhere; frontend, backend and even mobile. Also I always love to hear feedback.
- probinso 11y agoRStudioServer
- adelarsq 11y agoI use Vim for everything, since Web development until server side, actually for Node, Java, Rust and Python.
- TylerJewell 11y agoI would encourage you to check out Eclipse Che and Eclipse Orion. Eclipse Che will let you set up your own hosted workspace. Eclipse Orion is embedded within Che and provides language extensions for JavaScript and Web development. The technology are platform-centric, so there is a lot of embedded use by vendors packaging new products. They are the platform for SAP Hana, Samsung ARTIK IDE, OpenShift IDE, VSTS. There are various other projects happening within the Cisco, Salesforce, Mongo, Go, C++, SAS communities. Che and Orion have hosted versions run by Codenvy & Eclipse, respectively. Both services are free on the hosted front. I am the project leader for Che & CEO of Codenvy.
- cellis 11y agoSublime Text 3 with a build system ( I simply press cmd+b to run a standalone javascript file there on the spot in ST3 ), and node-debug to debug standalone scripts (from the command line with iTerm). Works amazingly. Everything else, command line. I used to be the biggest IDE fan ( had my Eclipse kitted out with 4GB allocated, all the hotkeys, etc ), but I don't do Java or AS3 programming anymore and even though sometimes i still find myself missing certain types of autocompletion, I've started to become jaded on the concept of IDEs as the command line is just so much more versatile and memory efficient. Sublime Text and the command line are really all you need these days, unless you're doing C#/C++ ( in which case I'd suggest Visual Studio ) or iphone native (Xcode obvi).