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One of the worst things about cancer is hearing stories like this all the time. It's really unhelpful and very draining to have your body undergo hell and your

One of the worst things about cancer is hearing stories like this all the time. It's really unhelpful and very draining to have your body undergo hell and your mind besieged by well=intentioned idiots telling you to expel toxins/ pray the cancer away/ stop eating this.

andreygrehov 10y ago
Agree. Maybe this is all a coincidence they both survived and the other guy passed away. Have no idea. Shared what I know. Nothing less, nothing more.
- ryanwaggoner 10y ago
  You don't really know anything of value about this though. Are you an oncologist? Did you see her scans and test results? Have you been to her follow ups? Talked with her doctors? Do you even know the name of this magical herb that cures cancer but has somehow eluded the attention of thousands of researchers desperate to save hundreds of millions of suffering people, including their own loved ones?
  - andreygrehov 10y ago
    Ryan, there is no magical herb. The gist of treatment was fasting. I have no idea what kind of diet it was. Do you want to know more? I can ask her details and the other guy who survived by sticking to the same diet.
    - ryanwaggoner 10y ago
      I want to know whether they're dedicating their lives to winning a Nobel prize and saving billions of lives with this magical cure. If not, why not? They had fatal cancers cured in just a few months with no treatment, and then just went back to work and forgot about it? Also, if the essence is fasting, why did they need to go see a shaman in Peru?
      - andreygrehov 10y ago
        That's a good question. I moved to another city and had no chance (and interest) to know what they were doing after the recovery. I'll try to figure it out. You made me curious. I see you want more data, but, unfortunately, I cannot provide you with any other details. I don't like your tone and would love to close this thread. Thank you.
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        ryanwaggoner 10y ago
        I just don't understand. You clearly believe that their method cured their cancer. But you lost interest From there? I obviously don't believe their method works, but if I did, I wouldn't just shuffle off to do something else. I just don't understand how you, and these cured scientists could all just shrug at this incredibly miraculous and basically free cure of a horrible disease that will kill tens of millions of people this year alone.
      - reddytowns 10y ago
        The problem is that medical science today isn't equipped to prove/disprove this kind of medicine. All that would happen if they could convince anyone to even believe the story, which I highly doubt, is one study would be conducted. The scientists would ignore all the diagnosis and individual examination the shaman did, and the study would probably have the participants take a specific amount of a single specific herb on a single specific schedule. Basically, they'd take all the complexities of the alternative medical system and tried to distill it down to a one-size-fits-all regimen. Then, after it undoubtedly showed no effect, they'd proclaim the shaman is a fraud and that nothing he does really works. I mean, really, are you going to sit there and tell me that its more logical that all the alternative medical systems developed over thousands of years are bullshit, than the possibility that modern medicine has gaps covered by these other medical systems, that can't/won't be filled using the scientific method, wrapped and perverted as it is by the hubris and single-minded culture of the doctors and scientists using it?
nommm-nommm 10y ago
Having any chronic illness makes you hear this nonsense too, tons of unsolicited and unwanted "advice."

andreygrehov 10y ago

Agree. Maybe this is all a coincidence they both survived and the other guy passed away. Have no idea. Shared what I know. Nothing less, nothing more.

ryanwaggoner 10y ago
You don't really know anything of value about this though. Are you an oncologist? Did you see her scans and test results? Have you been to her follow ups? Talked with her doctors? Do you even know the name of this magical herb that cures cancer but has somehow eluded the attention of thousands of researchers desperate to save hundreds of millions of suffering people, including their own loved ones?
- andreygrehov 10y ago
  Ryan, there is no magical herb. The gist of treatment was fasting. I have no idea what kind of diet it was. Do you want to know more? I can ask her details and the other guy who survived by sticking to the same diet.
  - ryanwaggoner 10y ago
    I want to know whether they're dedicating their lives to winning a Nobel prize and saving billions of lives with this magical cure. If not, why not? They had fatal cancers cured in just a few months with no treatment, and then just went back to work and forgot about it? Also, if the essence is fasting, why did they need to go see a shaman in Peru?
    - andreygrehov 10y ago
      That's a good question. I moved to another city and had no chance (and interest) to know what they were doing after the recovery. I'll try to figure it out. You made me curious. I see you want more data, but, unfortunately, I cannot provide you with any other details. I don't like your tone and would love to close this thread. Thank you.
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      - ryanwaggoner 10y ago
        I just don't understand. You clearly believe that their method cured their cancer. But you lost interest From there? I obviously don't believe their method works, but if I did, I wouldn't just shuffle off to do something else. I just don't understand how you, and these cured scientists could all just shrug at this incredibly miraculous and basically free cure of a horrible disease that will kill tens of millions of people this year alone.
    - reddytowns 10y ago
      The problem is that medical science today isn't equipped to prove/disprove this kind of medicine. All that would happen if they could convince anyone to even believe the story, which I highly doubt, is one study would be conducted. The scientists would ignore all the diagnosis and individual examination the shaman did, and the study would probably have the participants take a specific amount of a single specific herb on a single specific schedule. Basically, they'd take all the complexities of the alternative medical system and tried to distill it down to a one-size-fits-all regimen. Then, after it undoubtedly showed no effect, they'd proclaim the shaman is a fraud and that nothing he does really works. I mean, really, are you going to sit there and tell me that its more logical that all the alternative medical systems developed over thousands of years are bullshit, than the possibility that modern medicine has gaps covered by these other medical systems, that can't/won't be filled using the scientific method, wrapped and perverted as it is by the hubris and single-minded culture of the doctors and scientists using it?

nommm-nommm 10y ago

Having any chronic illness makes you hear this nonsense too, tons of unsolicited and unwanted "advice."