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I don't know. A lot of people agree with you, that creating superintelligent humans is necessary. I'm scared of being replaced. I'm also worried such humans w

I don't know. A lot of people agree with you, that creating superintelligent humans is necessary. I'm scared of being replaced. I'm also worried such humans would be so different than us, they wouldn't identify with us. Maybe even come to despise us. They would form their own ingroup and view us as enemies even. I've met someone that had high IQ, and identified with high IQ like some people identify with their country. He legitimately hated low IQ people, was ok with exterminating them, and said he would prefer to die or commit suicide than lose his intelligence. It was such an alien way of looking at the world to me.

eli_gottlieb 10y ago
>I'm scared of being replaced. I'm also worried such humans would be so different than us, they wouldn't identify with us. Maybe even come to despise us. They would form their own ingroup and view us as enemies even. You're on Hacker News and you're afraid of nerds? Come on. We're right here. Ask us what we think of you. >I've met someone that had high IQ, and identified with high IQ like some people identify with their country. He legitimately hated low IQ people, was ok with exterminating them, and said he would prefer to die or commit suicide than lose his intelligence. It was such an alien way of looking at the world to me. To be honest, he probably went through a lot of pain and maltreatment to acquire that kind of point-of-view. He's not an alien! He's a person. Just because his cognition has less noise in it and he needs fewer samples to reach the same inferences doesn't make him some fundamentally different kind of creature: all the algorithms are the same, only their free parameters are different. Smart people have empathy and feelings too, and in fact, most of the time the most genuinely hurtful thing we experience (speaking as someone who is too often told that he's the "smart guy" in the group, even among nerdy, intelligent people) is precisely the Straw Vulcan stereotype about intelligence. We're not cold-hearted, we're not aliens, we're just people. Putting us in gifted programs as kids is a great idea. Forcing us to compose prodigal concertos at age 12 is probably a bad idea. Treating us with respect and fellowship works best.
- Houshalter 10y ago
  No I'm not "afraid of nerds". I am a nerd. These wouldn't be nerds, they would be to Einstein, what Einstein was to an average person. The distance would probably be far greater actually. They could plausibly be a different species than us. What happened to this guy I was talking about, was high IQ defined his identity, what separated him from others. Fortunately most high IQ people do integrate fine into society, we all still have a lot on common. But it's likely the superintelligent babies would not integrate well. They would only be able to communicate and find things in common with other supers, and not idenitfy with us normies. We'd be subhumans to them.

eli_gottlieb 10y ago

>I'm scared of being replaced. I'm also worried such humans would be so different than us, they wouldn't identify with us. Maybe even come to despise us. They would form their own ingroup and view us as enemies even. You're on Hacker News and you're afraid of nerds? Come on. We're right here. Ask us what we think of you. >I've met someone that had high IQ, and identified with high IQ like some people identify with their country. He legitimately hated low IQ people, was ok with exterminating them, and said he would prefer to die or commit suicide than lose his intelligence. It was such an alien way of looking at the world to me. To be honest, he probably went through a lot of pain and maltreatment to acquire that kind of point-of-view. He's not an alien! He's a person. Just because his cognition has less noise in it and he needs fewer samples to reach the same inferences doesn't make him some fundamentally different kind of creature: all the algorithms are the same, only their free parameters are different. Smart people have empathy and feelings too, and in fact, most of the time the most genuinely hurtful thing we experience (speaking as someone who is too often told that he's the "smart guy" in the group, even among nerdy, intelligent people) is precisely the Straw Vulcan stereotype about intelligence. We're not cold-hearted, we're not aliens, we're just people. Putting us in gifted programs as kids is a great idea. Forcing us to compose prodigal concertos at age 12 is probably a bad idea. Treating us with respect and fellowship works best.

Houshalter 10y ago
No I'm not "afraid of nerds". I am a nerd. These wouldn't be nerds, they would be to Einstein, what Einstein was to an average person. The distance would probably be far greater actually. They could plausibly be a different species than us. What happened to this guy I was talking about, was high IQ defined his identity, what separated him from others. Fortunately most high IQ people do integrate fine into society, we all still have a lot on common. But it's likely the superintelligent babies would not integrate well. They would only be able to communicate and find things in common with other supers, and not idenitfy with us normies. We'd be subhumans to them.