> At some point this becomes a philosophical argument, so we can't have a very nuanced debate on it... This sentiment saddens me. The thought that philosophy -

> At some point this becomes a philosophical argument, so we can't have a very nuanced debate on it... This sentiment saddens me. The thought that philosophy - which begins with the examination of our beliefs and personal opinions through the lens of reason - could be considered impossible to talk about with nuance seems deeply wrong to me. If that's your experience, you've been exposed to some very wrong, or very modern, philosophers. Philosophy is just talking about being, and a conversation about simulated versus 'actual' reality is the best place for it.