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AWS, GCP and Azure must be making hay getting cheap drives from manufacturers who want to grow revenue / move units. Regular S3 hasn't had a price cut in a whi

AWS, GCP and Azure must be making hay getting cheap drives from manufacturers who want to grow revenue / move units. Regular S3 hasn't had a price cut in a while now.

boulos 10y ago
You might be interested in our recent blogpost, white paper and Eric's USENIX keynote: https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/02/Google-seeks-new-disks-for-data-centers.html https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/02/Google-seeks-ne... . tl;dr: We're definitely still looking to buy spinning drives, but maybe they don't need to fit into a 2.5" or 3.5" PC sized slot.
- rzzzt 10y ago
  Reading the suggestions about form factor in the white paper, I'd love to see full-height 5¼" drives spinning at 10K that look like their MFM ancestors, only having ~200,000 times more capacity. :) (Also, the part which discusses hybrid SMR drives that allocate a conventionally recorded section on the platters for GC and hot/cold data separation purposes – would a small SSD be applicable for this functionality?)
- discodave 10y ago
  Thanks! I thought this quote from a recent James Hamilton blog post seemed like a plea for the hard drive manufacturers to get their act together... seems like he's not alone ;) "But, leveraging an existing disk design will not produce a winning product for archival storage. Using disk would require a much larger, slower, more power efficient and less expensive hardware platform. It really would need to be different from current generation disk drives. Designing a new platform for the archive market just doesn’t feel comfortable for disk manufacturers and, as a consequence, although the hard drive industry could have easily won the archive market, they have left most of the market for other storage technologies." http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2016/03/everspan-optical-cold-stroage/ http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2016/03/everspan-optical-co...

AWS, GCP and Azure must be making hay getting cheap drives from manufacturers who want to grow revenue / move units. Regular S3 hasn't had a price cut in a while now.

boulos 10y ago

You might be interested in our recent blogpost, white paper and Eric's USENIX keynote: https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/02/Google-seeks-new-disks-for-data-centers.html https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/02/Google-seeks-ne... . tl;dr: We're definitely still looking to buy spinning drives, but maybe they don't need to fit into a 2.5" or 3.5" PC sized slot.

rzzzt 10y ago
Reading the suggestions about form factor in the white paper, I'd love to see full-height 5¼" drives spinning at 10K that look like their MFM ancestors, only having ~200,000 times more capacity. :) (Also, the part which discusses hybrid SMR drives that allocate a conventionally recorded section on the platters for GC and hot/cold data separation purposes – would a small SSD be applicable for this functionality?)
discodave 10y ago
Thanks! I thought this quote from a recent James Hamilton blog post seemed like a plea for the hard drive manufacturers to get their act together... seems like he's not alone ;) "But, leveraging an existing disk design will not produce a winning product for archival storage. Using disk would require a much larger, slower, more power efficient and less expensive hardware platform. It really would need to be different from current generation disk drives. Designing a new platform for the archive market just doesn’t feel comfortable for disk manufacturers and, as a consequence, although the hard drive industry could have easily won the archive market, they have left most of the market for other storage technologies." http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2016/03/everspan-optical-cold-stroage/ http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2016/03/everspan-optical-co...