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Some of my Chinese friends use の instead of Chinese equivalent 的 just for fun. Personally I distinguish them by just going and learning the languages. It's easy
by brendyn 10y ago
Some of my Chinese friends use の instead of Chinese equivalent 的 just for fun. Personally I distinguish them by just going and learning the languages. It's easy to distinguish them by noticing Japanese has curvy characters mixed with blocky complicated Chinese ones, where is Chinese is 100% complicated blocky characters.
Also I just want to put it out there randomly that if you want to learn a language but believe you can't, you are almost certainly wrong. If you are able to read this text, you have demonstrated possession of a wet sack of neurons capable of learning a second language. I've witnessed or read about all sorts of people learning a new language; old people, shy, autistic, even while dealing with brain cancer. It is a myth to think children can learn faster than adults. The only time this happens is when the adult is hindered by there own reluctances.
Go get some beginner materials with audio, not just text, and dive in. Don't waste time torrenting 12312^23 TiB of learning materials. Glossika, Teach Yourself X, Xpod, Xclass101, whatever. Learn how to ask some trivial questions relevant to your life, write them down because you will forget, then go chat with a native speaker somehow. Read out your questions because you're nervous and forgot, and then fail to understand anything they say, but just pay attention and listen to the sounds of the language. Then go home and learn a bit more, but don't worry too much about memorising anything, just listen, and comprehend a little bit. Then meet up with a native speaker again with some more questions prepared. This time you might understand 0, 1, or a few words, still be nervous, but you'll be a little bit better than last time. Basically you just keep this up without giving up and you will pick up pace. For inspiration, look at blogs like Benny Lewis' and others. It may take 10000 hours to master, but it only takes hundreds of hours to find yourself understand and contributing to group conversations comfortably. If you can enjoy the process, you'll be able to study for N hours for any N as the clock keeps ticking regardless. Just set N=1000
- adrianN 10y agoFor some languages a couple hundred hours might be enough to participate meaningfully in a normal conversation. But if you're for example an English native speaker and want to learn Chinese, you'll have a really hard time understanding anything but very simple sentences. On the other hand if you know English and German well, it is very easy to learn for example Dutch, and a couple hundred hours will get you really far.
- restalis 10y agoYou're discussing about the language overlap being relevant for the amount of time and effort necessary to get results. That is true, of course, and it if often thanks to the (shared and) already possessed mental models necessary to master the new language. The most important bit of this mental model of a given language is the way speakers phrase their thoughts. This is exactly what you get right by following the brendyn's advice of taking it slow. In time you'll sense and reproduce the natural expressions. (This advice is especially valuable for learning English, BTW! Trying to make sense out of the compound verbs is a poor strategy, therefore just let them sink in slowly in your mind, each within an appropriate context.)
- PhasmaFelis 10y ago> It's easy to distinguish them by noticing Japanese has curvy characters mixed with blocky complicated Chinese ones, where is Chinese is 100% complicated blocky characters. And Korean has lots of circles/ovals.