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So crazy it might just work.

by ape4 10y ago

sdegutis 10y ago
I'd be surprised if something exactly like this but more mature and with a lot more questionable legacy design decisions doesn't already exist.
- eudox 10y ago
  There's L++: https://bitbucket.org/ktg/l https://bitbucket.org/ktg/l And, for people who refuse to let go of curly braces, there's this shameless plug: https://github.com/eudoxia0/cmacro https://github.com/eudoxia0/cmacro
- fsloth 10y ago
  There is the GSL by iMatix https://github.com/imatix/gsl https://github.com/imatix/gsl (so closely associated with Pieter Hintjens of http://zeromq.org/ http://zeromq.org/)
shiro 10y ago
Large part of low-level runtime of Gauche (Scheme dialect) is written in "C in S-expression", the same idea with this. I found it so pleasant writing C in S-expr that I gradually rewriting my C code with it.
bitwize 10y ago
Historically the Scheme48 abstract machine was written in Pre-Scheme, a Scheme subset restricted enough to compile straightforwardly to C. For me, using Pre-Scheme to write graphics kernels was great fun, and produced decently fast code :)
- groovy2shoes 10y ago
  Historically? It still is! :) I think VLISP is, as well. VLISP (not the French one from the 80s, the other one, though the French one was interesting in its own right [1]), was a verified Scheme implementation written in a verified version of Pre-Scheme. Sweet research project, but I haven't seen any public releases of it :/ There are some papers about both here: http://library.readscheme.org/page8.html http://library.readscheme.org/page8.html [1]: http://www.artinfo-musinfo.org/en/issues/vlisp/index.html http://www.artinfo-musinfo.org/en/issues/vlisp/index.html VLISP was a precursor to Le-Lisp [2], which was massively popular and influential in Europe, and could run faster on commodity hardware than Lisp Machine Lisp on the Symbolics 3600. [2]: http://lelisp.org/ http://lelisp.org/ (under construction, but with some useful links for the time being). France was actually a hotbed of Lisp across the pond and, along with the UK, pretty invested in a European standard for Lisp, first EuLisp (which was an excellent language but somehow flopped unfortunately) and ISLISP (an ISO standard that's not so excellent -- basically a crippled version of Common Lisp -- and also pretty much flopped). I've been in talks with some of the Le-Lisp guys about the possibility of open-sourcing Le-Lisp now that it's no longer commercially viable -- fingers crossed! :) P.S., if anyone from INRIA happens to be reading this: pretty please?? Jérôme agrees! :)

So crazy it might just work.

by ape4 10y ago

So crazy it might just work.

I'd be surprised if something exactly like this but more mature and with a lot more questionable legacy design decisions doesn't already exist.

eudox 10y ago
There's L++: https://bitbucket.org/ktg/l https://bitbucket.org/ktg/l And, for people who refuse to let go of curly braces, there's this shameless plug: https://github.com/eudoxia0/cmacro https://github.com/eudoxia0/cmacro
fsloth 10y ago
There is the GSL by iMatix https://github.com/imatix/gsl https://github.com/imatix/gsl (so closely associated with Pieter Hintjens of http://zeromq.org/ http://zeromq.org/)

shiro 10y ago

Large part of low-level runtime of Gauche (Scheme dialect) is written in "C in S-expression", the same idea with this. I found it so pleasant writing C in S-expr that I gradually rewriting my C code with it.

bitwize 10y ago

Historically the Scheme48 abstract machine was written in Pre-Scheme, a Scheme subset restricted enough to compile straightforwardly to C. For me, using Pre-Scheme to write graphics kernels was great fun, and produced decently fast code :)

groovy2shoes 10y ago
Historically? It still is! :) I think VLISP is, as well. VLISP (not the French one from the 80s, the other one, though the French one was interesting in its own right [1]), was a verified Scheme implementation written in a verified version of Pre-Scheme. Sweet research project, but I haven't seen any public releases of it :/ There are some papers about both here: http://library.readscheme.org/page8.html http://library.readscheme.org/page8.html [1]: http://www.artinfo-musinfo.org/en/issues/vlisp/index.html http://www.artinfo-musinfo.org/en/issues/vlisp/index.html VLISP was a precursor to Le-Lisp [2], which was massively popular and influential in Europe, and could run faster on commodity hardware than Lisp Machine Lisp on the Symbolics 3600. [2]: http://lelisp.org/ http://lelisp.org/ (under construction, but with some useful links for the time being). France was actually a hotbed of Lisp across the pond and, along with the UK, pretty invested in a European standard for Lisp, first EuLisp (which was an excellent language but somehow flopped unfortunately) and ISLISP (an ISO standard that's not so excellent -- basically a crippled version of Common Lisp -- and also pretty much flopped). I've been in talks with some of the Le-Lisp guys about the possibility of open-sourcing Le-Lisp now that it's no longer commercially viable -- fingers crossed! :) P.S., if anyone from INRIA happens to be reading this: pretty please?? Jérôme agrees! :)