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I'm actually serious when I say this a huge opportunity for Twitter. Twitter has the possibility for so much randomness, which I would say is good for the healt

I'm actually serious when I say this a huge opportunity for Twitter. Twitter has the possibility for so much randomness, which I would say is good for the health of the world. Its a public free for all. Facebook, as Stratchery [1] and others have said, facilitates a group think world. You interact with your friends who all think like you. I'm an investor in Facebook and no longer one in Twitter, but I can't think of anything more I'd like than to lose than my money on Facebook. 1. https://stratechery.com/2016/the-real-problem-with-facebook-and-the-news/ https://stratechery.com/2016/the-real-problem-with-facebook-...

hammock 10y ago
Twitter is already more overt than Facebook about its left-leaning censorship. Cf. the Trust & Safety Council, shadowbanning tweets and accounts, de-verifying accounts, and manipulating trending topics in a similar way to Facebook
- JoshTriplett 10y ago
  I don't know about how Twitter selects "trending topics". But I find it strange that a "Trust & Safety Council" and other tools to help protect people could be considered "left-leaning". I'm pretty allergic to politics, especially politics being injected where it doesn't belong, but I'm just not seeing the connection there.
  - rdancer 10y ago
    It's the other way 'round. Someone has a pragmatic stance on something, and the SJWs label it as political, and ban it. They also ban or not ban people because of their politics. It's one thing to ban all politics, another banning just those you oppose (and bonus if it's just an excuse and the real reason is money or connections). You don't have to look further than Twitter for examples of all of the above.
    - JoshTriplett 10y ago
      None of what you just said has anything to do with Twitter having a "Trust & Safety Council", or taking other steps to help users protect themselves.
      - rdancer 10y ago
        That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. If you want people protected from harassment and bullying, perhaps it follows that you would enlist the help of some of the more valiant SJWs. After all, who should know more about bullying than bullies themselves?
arprocter 10y ago
It seems twitter does it's own 'curation' too[0] [0]http://www.vocativ.com/290811/twitter-accused-of-censoring-anti-hillary-hashtag/ http://www.vocativ.com/290811/twitter-accused-of-censoring-a...
strgrd 10y ago
Facebook/Instagram and Twitter are so botted out by people paying for likes/comments/retweets, PR agencies, market manipulators, sentiment analyzers and state-sponsored disinformation campaigns that I would say these are not the democratic free for alls they once were. Not to mention gone are the days of strictly chronological feeds - now the algorithm that chooses what users see is a pay-to-win blackbox. There will be a day of reckoning for the social media giants where they face telling their shareholders that XX% of their users... don't exist. And then soon there will be a whole tech-point-o iteration of new social media startups who focus on ensuring their user base is real, and that their feed algorithms can't be gamed by money or teams of people working artificially (with bots or AI) to influence opinion.

hammock 10y ago

Twitter is already more overt than Facebook about its left-leaning censorship. Cf. the Trust & Safety Council, shadowbanning tweets and accounts, de-verifying accounts, and manipulating trending topics in a similar way to Facebook

JoshTriplett 10y ago
I don't know about how Twitter selects "trending topics". But I find it strange that a "Trust & Safety Council" and other tools to help protect people could be considered "left-leaning". I'm pretty allergic to politics, especially politics being injected where it doesn't belong, but I'm just not seeing the connection there.
- rdancer 10y ago
  It's the other way 'round. Someone has a pragmatic stance on something, and the SJWs label it as political, and ban it. They also ban or not ban people because of their politics. It's one thing to ban all politics, another banning just those you oppose (and bonus if it's just an excuse and the real reason is money or connections). You don't have to look further than Twitter for examples of all of the above.
  - JoshTriplett 10y ago
    None of what you just said has anything to do with Twitter having a "Trust & Safety Council", or taking other steps to help users protect themselves.
    - rdancer 10y ago
      That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. If you want people protected from harassment and bullying, perhaps it follows that you would enlist the help of some of the more valiant SJWs. After all, who should know more about bullying than bullies themselves?

arprocter 10y ago

It seems twitter does it's own 'curation' too[0] [0]http://www.vocativ.com/290811/twitter-accused-of-censoring-anti-hillary-hashtag/ http://www.vocativ.com/290811/twitter-accused-of-censoring-a...

strgrd 10y ago

Facebook/Instagram and Twitter are so botted out by people paying for likes/comments/retweets, PR agencies, market manipulators, sentiment analyzers and state-sponsored disinformation campaigns that I would say these are not the democratic free for alls they once were. Not to mention gone are the days of strictly chronological feeds - now the algorithm that chooses what users see is a pay-to-win blackbox. There will be a day of reckoning for the social media giants where they face telling their shareholders that XX% of their users... don't exist. And then soon there will be a whole tech-point-o iteration of new social media startups who focus on ensuring their user base is real, and that their feed algorithms can't be gamed by money or teams of people working artificially (with bots or AI) to influence opinion.