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I have said it before and I will say it again, the new gTLDs are just a money grab by ICANN. Not only that, but they are basically SEO black holes, no thanks!

by hobs 11y ago

jbob2000 11y ago
No, I think they are needed. The .com namespace is crowded, it's really hard to find a nice, short domain name, as pretty much everything under 6 characters has been bought up. If we can get older blogs and new blogs onto the .blog namespace, then this will free up .com for what it was intended for; companies.
- nikolay 11y ago
  Oh, so consumers make a difference between name.co, name.com, name.website, name.online, name.click, name.link? Gimme a break! This is a legalized scam and ICANN is a mafia!
  - jbob2000 11y ago
    It's a non-profit organization, hardly the kind of organization I would call a mafia. And yes, consumers can tell the difference between the different domain names. We already have hundreds for different countries, like .ca, .us, .uk, etc. You're really looking for a problem where there is none.
    - nikolay 11y ago
      As an organization - it's a non-profit one, true, but it is its bribable members who make it a mafia. I've been in the domain business since 2000 and I know a thing or two. ICANN is a mafia, period! And nobody in the domain business has any doubt about it!
      - jbob2000 11y ago
        What's your solution? Because you just sound like a tin-foil hat conspiracist at this point. There has to be an organization that manages domain names, how else would they be managed?
        fallenshell 11y ago
        This sounds more like a troll than a tin-foil hat conspiracist. Ignore it.
        nikolay 11y ago
        You're a troll - a newly created account with virtually no karma! I own thousands of domain names, and I have dealt with hundreds of domain registrars over the course of 20 years. When I say ICANN is a mafia, I know it first hand! I've reported a bunch of fraudulent registrars that stole some of my domains, and they didn't care due to that being a "customer support" issue and ignore all evidence I provided.
        fallenshell 10y ago
        Haha keep trying.
        nikolay 10y ago
        I don't care, really. I profit from idiots who buy domains. So, keep buying, please!
georgestephanis 11y ago
Not a money grab. All $$ paid by the winner of the gTLD are divvied up to the losers of the auction. ICANN isn't just printing money here or pocketing the price.
- hobs 11y ago
  I dont know where you heard that, because that is not what the ICANN wiki says: https://icannwiki.com/GTLD_Auctions https://icannwiki.com/GTLD_Auctions "ICANN condones private auctions, as it has encouraged applicants to resolve contention themselves, presumably through buy-outs, partnerships, and auctions. ICANN offers its own auction model as a last resort. All proceeds from gTLDs auctioned off under ICANN's auction model will go to ICANN as "excess funds" that will be redistributed at a later date, in ways that are yet to be determined.[2] " "The first ICANN auction of last resort was concluded on 4 June 2014 for the string .信息 which had two applicants. The winning price was $600,000 US Dollars. ICANN used their authorized auction services provider Power Auctions, LLC to carry out the auctions." So looks like you are incorrect.
  - georgestephanis 10y ago
    Not really. The citation you mentioned above itself says, under "Private Auctions" -- > The winner will pay the amount of the second-highest bid, split either equally or proportionally between the losing applicants And if you look at the news articles from the time that .blog was auctioned -- like http://domainincite.com/17991-blog-won-in-eight-figure-auction-by-primer-nivel http://domainincite.com/17991-blog-won-in-eight-figure-aucti... -- Minds + Machines, one of the losing bidders, revealed that they had received 3.4 million dollars after pulling out of the bidding for both `.blog` and `.store` Also, apart from all the above which is public knowledge and there for you to find on your own, I work for Automattic, and when I checked with those who were involved with the .blog purchase, he confirmed that the winning bid was dispersed to the losing bidders. All in all, not a bad consolation prize.

I have said it before and I will say it again, the new gTLDs are just a money grab by ICANN. Not only that, but they are basically SEO black holes, no thanks!

by hobs 11y ago

I have said it before and I will say it again, the new gTLDs are just a money grab by ICANN. Not only that, but they are basically SEO black holes, no thanks!

jbob2000 11y ago

No, I think they are needed. The .com namespace is crowded, it's really hard to find a nice, short domain name, as pretty much everything under 6 characters has been bought up. If we can get older blogs and new blogs onto the .blog namespace, then this will free up .com for what it was intended for; companies.

nikolay 11y ago
Oh, so consumers make a difference between name.co, name.com, name.website, name.online, name.click, name.link? Gimme a break! This is a legalized scam and ICANN is a mafia!
- jbob2000 11y ago
  It's a non-profit organization, hardly the kind of organization I would call a mafia. And yes, consumers can tell the difference between the different domain names. We already have hundreds for different countries, like .ca, .us, .uk, etc. You're really looking for a problem where there is none.
  - nikolay 11y ago
    As an organization - it's a non-profit one, true, but it is its bribable members who make it a mafia. I've been in the domain business since 2000 and I know a thing or two. ICANN is a mafia, period! And nobody in the domain business has any doubt about it!
    - jbob2000 11y ago
      What's your solution? Because you just sound like a tin-foil hat conspiracist at this point. There has to be an organization that manages domain names, how else would they be managed?
      - fallenshell 11y ago
        This sounds more like a troll than a tin-foil hat conspiracist. Ignore it.
        nikolay 11y ago
        You're a troll - a newly created account with virtually no karma! I own thousands of domain names, and I have dealt with hundreds of domain registrars over the course of 20 years. When I say ICANN is a mafia, I know it first hand! I've reported a bunch of fraudulent registrars that stole some of my domains, and they didn't care due to that being a "customer support" issue and ignore all evidence I provided.
        fallenshell 10y ago
        Haha keep trying.
        nikolay 10y ago
        I don't care, really. I profit from idiots who buy domains. So, keep buying, please!

georgestephanis 11y ago

Not a money grab. All $$ paid by the winner of the gTLD are divvied up to the losers of the auction. ICANN isn't just printing money here or pocketing the price.

hobs 11y ago
I dont know where you heard that, because that is not what the ICANN wiki says: https://icannwiki.com/GTLD_Auctions https://icannwiki.com/GTLD_Auctions "ICANN condones private auctions, as it has encouraged applicants to resolve contention themselves, presumably through buy-outs, partnerships, and auctions. ICANN offers its own auction model as a last resort. All proceeds from gTLDs auctioned off under ICANN's auction model will go to ICANN as "excess funds" that will be redistributed at a later date, in ways that are yet to be determined.[2] " "The first ICANN auction of last resort was concluded on 4 June 2014 for the string .信息 which had two applicants. The winning price was $600,000 US Dollars. ICANN used their authorized auction services provider Power Auctions, LLC to carry out the auctions." So looks like you are incorrect.
- georgestephanis 10y ago
  Not really. The citation you mentioned above itself says, under "Private Auctions" -- > The winner will pay the amount of the second-highest bid, split either equally or proportionally between the losing applicants And if you look at the news articles from the time that .blog was auctioned -- like http://domainincite.com/17991-blog-won-in-eight-figure-auction-by-primer-nivel http://domainincite.com/17991-blog-won-in-eight-figure-aucti... -- Minds + Machines, one of the losing bidders, revealed that they had received 3.4 million dollars after pulling out of the bidding for both `.blog` and `.store` Also, apart from all the above which is public knowledge and there for you to find on your own, I work for Automattic, and when I checked with those who were involved with the .blog purchase, he confirmed that the winning bid was dispersed to the losing bidders. All in all, not a bad consolation prize.