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While yes, the issue with disparate tipping dependent on race is probably an issue, I'm pretty sure Uber is just using it as a cop out here.

zardo 10y ago
I don't think so. If Uber allows tips through the app they collect data on their drivers suffering pay discrimination. Eventually it will wind up in court and jury will side with the drivers forcing Uber to pay the difference.
- Alupis 10y ago
  Lyft allows for tipping via the App. I do it often, when a driver goes above the bare minimum of Point A -> Point B. Having water bottles available in the car, good music or ability to put something of my choosing on, a good conversation, friendly driver, driver who looks for short cuts to cut down on the fare, etc. Some drivers act like you're not even there, or don't have good "people skills", and it can sometimes make for an uncomfortable experience. Supporting those drivers that go above and beyond the minimum is something that encourages a better experience for me.
  - zardo 10y ago
    Lyft will eventually have to speak to the reality that how much money you make per ride as a Lyft driver can be predicted by skin tone and sex.
    - Alupis 10y ago
      > Lyft will eventually have to speak to the reality that how much money you make per ride as a Lyft driver can be predicted by skin tone and sex. Do we actually have data on this, or is this some sort of assumption? Uber is using this as an excuse to not even try a tipping system, but without data, it's just a hollow excuse. I tip based on experience. I'm sure most of us do... not based on what color your skin is or your sex.
      - zardo 10y ago
        >I tip based on experience. I'm sure most of us do... not based on what color your skin is or your sex. I'm not sure how you tip based on experience, do you interview them on their job history? Most people are tipping based on pretty fuzzy criteria, and they wind up tipping people that are familiar to them more.
        Alupis 10y ago
        > I'm not sure how you tip based on experience, do you interview them on their job history? Oh no, I didn't word that the best way. I didn't mean "experience with that person"... I mean I tip based on the experience I had while dining for that particular meal. Was it good or bad? Was my drink refilled without me having to ask? Was the server attentive and friendly, etc.

zardo 10y ago

I don't think so. If Uber allows tips through the app they collect data on their drivers suffering pay discrimination. Eventually it will wind up in court and jury will side with the drivers forcing Uber to pay the difference.

Alupis 10y ago
Lyft allows for tipping via the App. I do it often, when a driver goes above the bare minimum of Point A -> Point B. Having water bottles available in the car, good music or ability to put something of my choosing on, a good conversation, friendly driver, driver who looks for short cuts to cut down on the fare, etc. Some drivers act like you're not even there, or don't have good "people skills", and it can sometimes make for an uncomfortable experience. Supporting those drivers that go above and beyond the minimum is something that encourages a better experience for me.
- zardo 10y ago
  Lyft will eventually have to speak to the reality that how much money you make per ride as a Lyft driver can be predicted by skin tone and sex.
  - Alupis 10y ago
    > Lyft will eventually have to speak to the reality that how much money you make per ride as a Lyft driver can be predicted by skin tone and sex. Do we actually have data on this, or is this some sort of assumption? Uber is using this as an excuse to not even try a tipping system, but without data, it's just a hollow excuse. I tip based on experience. I'm sure most of us do... not based on what color your skin is or your sex.
    - zardo 10y ago
      >I tip based on experience. I'm sure most of us do... not based on what color your skin is or your sex. I'm not sure how you tip based on experience, do you interview them on their job history? Most people are tipping based on pretty fuzzy criteria, and they wind up tipping people that are familiar to them more.
      - Alupis 10y ago
        > I'm not sure how you tip based on experience, do you interview them on their job history? Oh no, I didn't word that the best way. I didn't mean "experience with that person"... I mean I tip based on the experience I had while dining for that particular meal. Was it good or bad? Was my drink refilled without me having to ask? Was the server attentive and friendly, etc.