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> You go through four or 6 interviews and then one of the 8 or so people you've interviewed with has a bad feeling about you and that seals the deal. Then they

> You go through four or 6 interviews and then one of the 8 or so people you've interviewed with has a bad feeling about you and that seals the deal. Then they get on Hacker News later that day and complain about how hard it is to find people and how hot the job market is right now.

cm3 11y ago
Yeah, I'm always amused when large corps complain about missing workforce and about needing 50.000 software developers in Germany. But if you went looking they either don't want developers but PhD's who've heard of C++ or much worse just cheap labor. The latest was Volkswagen making news right after the software scandal that they're planning to hire 38.000 developers. No idea what tasks they want to put that many developers on and I'm not sure if I should be scared or skeptical.
- hlfw0rd 11y ago
  Modern cars often consist of millions of lines of programming. Especially electric cars.
  - cm3 11y ago
    Sure, but planning to hire 35k devs requires a better explanation than that. Even building a space station like DS9 wouldn't make use of 35k in any effective way. How would you coordinate and make use of the available workforce?
    - cm3 11y ago
      The last time I've read numbers a couple years ago, not even Microsoft had 35k software developers.
cm3 11y ago
Speaking of, if you've watched last week's Silicon Valley episode and are in the valley, is it really true that recruiters send you gift baskets just to lure you to an interview?
- Bartweiss 11y ago
  I've never seen this, probably because recruiters aren't dumb and know that people will react just like Guilfoyle did. I've certainly seen 'perks' for in-person interviews or acceptances, but I'd be shocked if people are opening with gifts before they get something in return.
- yolesaber 11y ago
  Not a fruit basket, but I've been wined and dined by recruiters during the frothy 2011-2012 years. I did not take the job but the dinner was nice.

cm3 11y ago

Yeah, I'm always amused when large corps complain about missing workforce and about needing 50.000 software developers in Germany. But if you went looking they either don't want developers but PhD's who've heard of C++ or much worse just cheap labor. The latest was Volkswagen making news right after the software scandal that they're planning to hire 38.000 developers. No idea what tasks they want to put that many developers on and I'm not sure if I should be scared or skeptical.

hlfw0rd 11y ago
Modern cars often consist of millions of lines of programming. Especially electric cars.
- cm3 11y ago
  Sure, but planning to hire 35k devs requires a better explanation than that. Even building a space station like DS9 wouldn't make use of 35k in any effective way. How would you coordinate and make use of the available workforce?
  - cm3 11y ago
    The last time I've read numbers a couple years ago, not even Microsoft had 35k software developers.

cm3 11y ago

Speaking of, if you've watched last week's Silicon Valley episode and are in the valley, is it really true that recruiters send you gift baskets just to lure you to an interview?

Bartweiss 11y ago
I've never seen this, probably because recruiters aren't dumb and know that people will react just like Guilfoyle did. I've certainly seen 'perks' for in-person interviews or acceptances, but I'd be shocked if people are opening with gifts before they get something in return.
yolesaber 11y ago
Not a fruit basket, but I've been wined and dined by recruiters during the frothy 2011-2012 years. I did not take the job but the dinner was nice.