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It's particularly telling that they don't compare against Safari at all. I've found it to beat Chrome by more than 50%.

by lucian1900 10y ago

derefr 10y ago
Is that with a reasonable (~10) or unreasonable (~300) number of tabs open?
- mstade 10y ago
  (Disclaimer: anecdata.) Unreasonable, for sure. I may not be in the several hundreds of tabs open at any given time, but definitely around a hundred. I gave up on Chrome for this specific reason, it'd just kill my battery in no time, whereas I can go an entire work day with Safari and still have battery left for an episode of SV. I routinely have ridiculous amounts of tabs open (for no good reasons) and Safari so far has been the only browser able to cope without draining my battery in no time. My main reason for ditching Chrome in favor of Safari, aside from the fact that Safari is ridiculously fast, is that Chrome is a memory hog. The way I browse, with so many tabs open and lots of flipping back and forth, Chrome routinely eats around 4gb of memory in total, whereas Safari uses somewhere in the vicinity of 50%-75% of that. (Looking at it right now, it's at 1.86gb.) I don't think Safari is the perfect browser by any means, but it's the best one I've used so far.
  - miloshadzic 10y ago
    A classic example of finding a technical solution to a human problem. If you have a hundred tabs open, you're problem is the hundred tabs and not your browser.
    - mitchty 10y ago
      Why? I open up a lot of tabs while researching things, and once I have found my solution, I can either review the rest of the tabs or close the window. So what is the human problem with having many tabs exactly?
      - Alphasite_ 10y ago
        Honestly, Chromes UI for lots of tabs sucks as well. Safari has multiple allowances for it and never shrinks tabs down into a tiny, useless state[1] nor does Safari have a tab limit. Frankly, Chrome sucks with a lot of tabs and sucks at conserving power, on a laptop it loses out on the two things that actually matter to me. [1] https://imgur.com/bZTgrCg https://imgur.com/bZTgrCg
        mitchty 10y ago
        No argument there, I use safari both for tab sanity and low battery use, I just don't get the hate for people using many tabs. They're basically stacks of mini bookmarks in my view.
      - miloshadzic 10y ago
        Many tabs is not a hundred tabs. You can't really manage a hundred tabs. Try using bookmarks and a search engine.
        dr_zoidberg 10y ago
        I have a similar use pattern, and the short answer is: it isn't worth bookmarking. I (we?) are reading a lot and evaluating if it's even worth keeping. Once I've decided if it's worth keeping then yes, I will bookmark. But first I have to scan through the bunch of documents/pages/topics I have opened and see if they're of any use.
        kryptiskt 10y ago
        Tabs can be managed easily, I close them when I'm done. Bookmarks are long-term memory, tabs are short-term memory.
        mstade 10y ago
        I tried that, but it ended up just being a dump of oh so many bookmarks and I'd spend more time searching, finding all sorts of interesting stuff in my dumps of bookmarks, open those up, and then all of a sudden I'm back to having loads and loads of tabs open. Seriously, I'm like a tab addict. I need help.
    - mstade 10y ago
      You seem to be getting down voted, but honestly I agree with you. If there was an option to limit the amount of tabs I can have open, I totally would use it and limit it all to 10, maybe even just 5. Thing is, this isn't so much a conscious choice – it just happens! I read something, there's an interesting link. I open a tab in the background and continue reading. Maybe I go back to the tab, find a couple more interesting links and open those in the background. Of course, there's also the link that's so obviously just bait, but I'm a weak man so I click it, then feel bad, like I just had a whole big bag of candy on my own or something. Anyway, rinse and repeat and hey presto – 150 tabs are open in no time. I fundamentally agree with you, but I'm like a chain smoker, except my vice is the humble HTML anchor...
      - sodpaw 10y ago
        I tend to have the same browsing habits and it was a huge drain on my resources until I started using OneTab. It's a Chrome extension that saves all your tabs on a window and lets you reopen them all at once or one at a time whenever. If you're still using Chrome give it a shot & hopefully it helps! https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/onetab/chphlpgkkbolifaimnlloiipkdnihall?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/onetab/chphlpgkkbo...
      - miloshadzic 10y ago
        I used to do something similar. Nowadays I put stuff I want to read into <insert fav read later service> and read them later if I'm not going to do it right away.
    - legulere 10y ago
      Rule number 1 for the interaction between humans and the computer is to never blame the user. Humans are the way they are and hard to change, you are programming for them, so you need to take into account how they use your program. If you provide tabs, they will leave tons of tabs open.
    - mikeash 10y ago
      A classic example of blaming the human for wanting what they want, when there's no particular reason not to give it to them. It's 2016. My 3GHz 6-core computer with 32GB of RAM should be able to handle a thousand tabs without even noticing it.
    - Shorel 10y ago
      Classic Opera could have twice the tabs in 2 GB of RAM and it ran fine.
- lucian1900 10y ago
  With only a few tens of tabs. Certainly less than 30.

It's particularly telling that they don't compare against Safari at all. I've found it to beat Chrome by more than 50%.

derefr 10y ago

Is that with a reasonable (~10) or unreasonable (~300) number of tabs open?

mstade 10y ago
(Disclaimer: anecdata.) Unreasonable, for sure. I may not be in the several hundreds of tabs open at any given time, but definitely around a hundred. I gave up on Chrome for this specific reason, it'd just kill my battery in no time, whereas I can go an entire work day with Safari and still have battery left for an episode of SV. I routinely have ridiculous amounts of tabs open (for no good reasons) and Safari so far has been the only browser able to cope without draining my battery in no time. My main reason for ditching Chrome in favor of Safari, aside from the fact that Safari is ridiculously fast, is that Chrome is a memory hog. The way I browse, with so many tabs open and lots of flipping back and forth, Chrome routinely eats around 4gb of memory in total, whereas Safari uses somewhere in the vicinity of 50%-75% of that. (Looking at it right now, it's at 1.86gb.) I don't think Safari is the perfect browser by any means, but it's the best one I've used so far.
- miloshadzic 10y ago
  A classic example of finding a technical solution to a human problem. If you have a hundred tabs open, you're problem is the hundred tabs and not your browser.
  - mitchty 10y ago
    Why? I open up a lot of tabs while researching things, and once I have found my solution, I can either review the rest of the tabs or close the window. So what is the human problem with having many tabs exactly?
    - Alphasite_ 10y ago
      Honestly, Chromes UI for lots of tabs sucks as well. Safari has multiple allowances for it and never shrinks tabs down into a tiny, useless state[1] nor does Safari have a tab limit. Frankly, Chrome sucks with a lot of tabs and sucks at conserving power, on a laptop it loses out on the two things that actually matter to me. [1] https://imgur.com/bZTgrCg https://imgur.com/bZTgrCg
      - mitchty 10y ago
        No argument there, I use safari both for tab sanity and low battery use, I just don't get the hate for people using many tabs. They're basically stacks of mini bookmarks in my view.
    - miloshadzic 10y ago
      Many tabs is not a hundred tabs. You can't really manage a hundred tabs. Try using bookmarks and a search engine.
      - dr_zoidberg 10y ago
        I have a similar use pattern, and the short answer is: it isn't worth bookmarking. I (we?) are reading a lot and evaluating if it's even worth keeping. Once I've decided if it's worth keeping then yes, I will bookmark. But first I have to scan through the bunch of documents/pages/topics I have opened and see if they're of any use.
      - kryptiskt 10y ago
        Tabs can be managed easily, I close them when I'm done. Bookmarks are long-term memory, tabs are short-term memory.
      - mstade 10y ago
        I tried that, but it ended up just being a dump of oh so many bookmarks and I'd spend more time searching, finding all sorts of interesting stuff in my dumps of bookmarks, open those up, and then all of a sudden I'm back to having loads and loads of tabs open. Seriously, I'm like a tab addict. I need help.
  - mstade 10y ago
    You seem to be getting down voted, but honestly I agree with you. If there was an option to limit the amount of tabs I can have open, I totally would use it and limit it all to 10, maybe even just 5. Thing is, this isn't so much a conscious choice – it just happens! I read something, there's an interesting link. I open a tab in the background and continue reading. Maybe I go back to the tab, find a couple more interesting links and open those in the background. Of course, there's also the link that's so obviously just bait, but I'm a weak man so I click it, then feel bad, like I just had a whole big bag of candy on my own or something. Anyway, rinse and repeat and hey presto – 150 tabs are open in no time. I fundamentally agree with you, but I'm like a chain smoker, except my vice is the humble HTML anchor...
    - sodpaw 10y ago
      I tend to have the same browsing habits and it was a huge drain on my resources until I started using OneTab. It's a Chrome extension that saves all your tabs on a window and lets you reopen them all at once or one at a time whenever. If you're still using Chrome give it a shot & hopefully it helps! https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/onetab/chphlpgkkbolifaimnlloiipkdnihall?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/onetab/chphlpgkkbo...
    - miloshadzic 10y ago
      I used to do something similar. Nowadays I put stuff I want to read into <insert fav read later service> and read them later if I'm not going to do it right away.
  - legulere 10y ago
    Rule number 1 for the interaction between humans and the computer is to never blame the user. Humans are the way they are and hard to change, you are programming for them, so you need to take into account how they use your program. If you provide tabs, they will leave tons of tabs open.
  - mikeash 10y ago
    A classic example of blaming the human for wanting what they want, when there's no particular reason not to give it to them. It's 2016. My 3GHz 6-core computer with 32GB of RAM should be able to handle a thousand tabs without even noticing it.
  - Shorel 10y ago
    Classic Opera could have twice the tabs in 2 GB of RAM and it ran fine.
lucian1900 10y ago
With only a few tens of tabs. Certainly less than 30.