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Maybe it's just me but I find the fact that Tesla has ready access to such detailed logs to be extremely creepy and pretty much a showstopper for me ever owning

• hellcow 10y ago
  Particularly knowing that they use those logs against you, openly and to the press.
  • greglindahl 10y ago
    Not the first, by any means: http://www.geek.com/mobile/toyota-acceleration-case-shows-why-we-fear-black-boxes-1361357/ http://www.geek.com/mobile/toyota-acceleration-case-shows-wh...
    • FireBeyond 10y ago
      That's not comparable. Toyota used black box data in _court cases_ where they were being accused of negligence, and people were attempting to hold them civilly and financial liable. This is Tesla managing their PR and saying "if you say anything bad about us, we'll publish to the world your driving history" (or in other cases, as they've already done, disable features and functions in what is supposedly your property, or downgrade the software thereof).
• wibr 10y ago
  Does anyone know exactly what kind of data Tesla can access and under what conditions? Do they routinely scan "their" whole fleet or just in cases like this?
  • greglindahl 10y ago
    When the equivalent of the "check engine" light comes on in a Tesla, the car prompts the driver to call the service number, and then the technician says they're downloading the logs from your car. That's not proof of what's actually going on, of course.