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> Web is not meant for serious tools. Compare Microsoft Office and Google's butt office suite. Well, isn't that an ambiguous claim with a weak anecdotal eviden

by patates 10y ago

> Web is not meant for serious tools. Compare Microsoft Office and Google's butt office suite. Well, isn't that an ambiguous claim with a weak anecdotal evidence. What is a "serious tool"? We have our email, crm, analytics, (only) shop, document versioning, etc. online. Actually, the native applications I use are just Visual Studio (can be replaced by code), Sql Management Studio (many web-based alternatives) and the browser itself - that being the only type of application I use with no web-based alternative, which could be seen as an operating system.

TeMPOraL 10y ago
> Well, isn't that an ambiguous claim with a weak anecdotal evidence. Try working on a 20-page document or 5-page-long spreadsheet and see how long it takes before you get pissed off at the performance. Unless you're oblivious to it - I'm starting to believe more and more people don't even expect anymore that computers can work without constant lags and pauses. > the native applications I use are just Visual Studio (can be replaced by code) Now can it, really? > Sql Management Studio (many web-based alternatives) With even remotely similar feature sets?
- patates 10y ago
  We have a giant list of archived support tickets in Office 365. They can be navigated nearly as fast as they can be navigated in native Excel app, through the 365 web app. I replaced Visual Studio already with Code for my personal projects. I expect it is just a matter of time before companies start to consider doing that too. Is it feature-complete? No, but not because it is an Electron-app, but because it's just young. SQL Server doesn't work on platforms other than Windows so the motivation for coming-up a feature-complete alternative is little. I could even then find a couple promising projects with a web search. For other databases such as Postgres and Mongo, there are many alternatives which provide more than their native GUIs. Rethink's main GUI is web-based, for example. A database management interface isn't challenging to implement as a web-app because web-apps are limited toys, but it is hard to do right in general.
  - pritambaral 10y ago
    SQL Server now runs on Linux.

by patates 10y ago

TeMPOraL 10y ago

> Well, isn't that an ambiguous claim with a weak anecdotal evidence. Try working on a 20-page document or 5-page-long spreadsheet and see how long it takes before you get pissed off at the performance. Unless you're oblivious to it - I'm starting to believe more and more people don't even expect anymore that computers can work without constant lags and pauses. > the native applications I use are just Visual Studio (can be replaced by code) Now can it, really? > Sql Management Studio (many web-based alternatives) With even remotely similar feature sets?

patates 10y ago
We have a giant list of archived support tickets in Office 365. They can be navigated nearly as fast as they can be navigated in native Excel app, through the 365 web app. I replaced Visual Studio already with Code for my personal projects. I expect it is just a matter of time before companies start to consider doing that too. Is it feature-complete? No, but not because it is an Electron-app, but because it's just young. SQL Server doesn't work on platforms other than Windows so the motivation for coming-up a feature-complete alternative is little. I could even then find a couple promising projects with a web search. For other databases such as Postgres and Mongo, there are many alternatives which provide more than their native GUIs. Rethink's main GUI is web-based, for example. A database management interface isn't challenging to implement as a web-app because web-apps are limited toys, but it is hard to do right in general.
- pritambaral 10y ago
  SQL Server now runs on Linux.