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What I do, when Chrome, or rather, my abuse of it (14 windows, 735 tabs at the moment, Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on a 32 GiB system) becomes onerous is to go to the t

by hga 10y ago

What I do, when Chrome, or rather, my abuse of it (14 windows, 735 tabs at the moment, Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on a 32 GiB system) becomes onerous is to go to the task manager and kill groups of tabs taking up "too much" memory, and very occasionally, too much CPU. (I get away with that abuse, which it a bit higher right now because I'm in the process of buying a house, by killing all tabs after launching, and only enabling the ones I want, one by one, using the essential to me Session Buddy.)

kn9 10y ago
Guilty too
anexprogrammer 10y ago
Ah, good, it's not just me! One anecdote - 5 years ago FF was the clear winner for coping with tab abuse. Stable and coped with hundreds of tabs happily, Chrome started crashing pages beyond 50 or so. Now it's the perfect reverse, FF hates a lot of tabs open and Chrome is stable with apparently limitless numbers.
- keeperofdakeys 10y ago
  Personally I have both working fine with hundreds of tabs, but chrome uses 5-10 times the ram.
  - anexprogrammer 10y ago
    Hmm. Maybe it's a FF add-on causing the problems for me, though I'm not using anything uncommon. An internal ps like chrome has might help pinning that down. Chrome is definitely the RAM greedy one (and so many processes!), and always has been.
    - keeperofdakeys 10y ago
      Firefox has "about:memory", which can give you some rather detailed information about memory usage.
      - swatthatfly 10y ago
        Chrome has chrome://memory-redirect/
        keeperofdakeys 10y ago
        Strangely I can't find it in the latest dev release of chrome or chromium, it's still in stable. At least on linux, it also shows firefox's total memory usage, maybe they are doing lots of comparisons.
- ngrilly 10y ago
  Anybody knows what changed in Firefox?
  - scholia 10y ago
    Maybe the pages got bigger? On my Windows 7 PC, FF still handles a lot more tabs than Chrome, typically 2x or 3x as many. Where Firefox falls over is with really heavy pages, such as infinite-scrolling image/gif sites. It's much better than it used to be, but it's still vulnerable. With Chrome, pages fail to load (giving a blank page) and the Flash plug-in crashes. The browser does stay up, but the effect is the same: you have to restart it.
- basch 10y ago
  firefox was stable but the chrome/ux hung if a tab hung. googlechrome was always responsive if a tab went berzerk.
hepta 10y ago
My god, I feel much better with my puny abuse.
- joantune 10y ago
  ditto!
scholia 10y ago
I'm amazed you can load that many tabs in Chrome. I got to 608 in Firefox (in 4GB) but that's with most of them suspended. And Firefox makes it much easier to find the tabs you want..... Incidentally, recent builds of the Chromium-based Vivaldi browser had this suspend feature before Chrome did. As did some Chrome extensions, of course.
insulanian 10y ago
I'm genuinely interested in the reasons people maintain so many tabs open. What type of workflow you have when you end up with so much stuff open? How do you get back to some of those tabs? Wouldn't it be easier to just google it again when you need it instead of having it lingering around and wasting your HW resources?
- scholia 10y ago
  They accumulate. Every day there are two or three pages you intend to read later, so you leave them open. A month later, you have an extra 100 tabs loaded. After six months, you have 600. There are also clusters of tabs associated with some research you were doing but didn't quite finish. Then the problem is it would take a couple of days to go through all the waiting tabs and shut them down, and you don't have a couple of days to spare. Eventually you just save them all out as a session and start again, and hope you will learn from your mistakes ;-) I've switched from FF/Chrome to FF/Vivaldi because it has much better ways to handle tabs and bookmarks than Chrome does. Vivaldi does tab stacking, for example.
  - nightcracker 10y ago
    Maybe a 'read later' extension could help you? Something longer-term than a tab, but shorter-term than a bookmark.
    - scholia 10y ago
      Yes. What I do now is save the page as an mhtml file so I can read it later without having to find it again. (Chrome should really offer better mhtml support.)
    - burfog 10y ago
      not going to touch an extension Extensions tend to break with browser updates. Extensions tend to cause slowness. Nobody wants your bug report if you are running an extension.
    - burfog 10y ago
oneweekwonder 10y ago
I would recommend you try Tab Outliner[0]. It has a bit of a learning curve and adjust your workflow. [0]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabs-outliner/eggkanocgddhmamlbiijnphhppkpkmkl?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabs-outliner/eggk...
JustSomeNobody 10y ago
I create a folder called ReadMe. In it I dump everything I want to read later. Every month I clean it; if I haven't read it by then, it wasn't that important.
joantune 10y ago
An extension called 'OneTab' might be of interest to you. You can put hundreds of those tabs into just one that becomes a list, and then save it with the name 'house prosepcts'
- hga 10y ago
  I tried that one, and it is indeed good, but see my other reply about how spacial organization works best for me. One Tab just didn't hit the sweet spot my normal system achieves, again, for me.
- ja27 10y ago
  I used a combination of OneTab, The Great Suspender, and Evernote. I let The Great Suspender keep my memory footprint down but every week or so I scan through my tabs and throw as many as I can into Evernote with tags. Anything left over I can generate a OneTab page and Evernote that whole page of links at once.

by hga 10y ago

kn9 10y ago

Guilty too

anexprogrammer 10y ago

Ah, good, it's not just me! One anecdote - 5 years ago FF was the clear winner for coping with tab abuse. Stable and coped with hundreds of tabs happily, Chrome started crashing pages beyond 50 or so. Now it's the perfect reverse, FF hates a lot of tabs open and Chrome is stable with apparently limitless numbers.

keeperofdakeys 10y ago
Personally I have both working fine with hundreds of tabs, but chrome uses 5-10 times the ram.
- anexprogrammer 10y ago
  Hmm. Maybe it's a FF add-on causing the problems for me, though I'm not using anything uncommon. An internal ps like chrome has might help pinning that down. Chrome is definitely the RAM greedy one (and so many processes!), and always has been.
  - keeperofdakeys 10y ago
    Firefox has "about:memory", which can give you some rather detailed information about memory usage.
    - swatthatfly 10y ago
      Chrome has chrome://memory-redirect/
      - keeperofdakeys 10y ago
        Strangely I can't find it in the latest dev release of chrome or chromium, it's still in stable. At least on linux, it also shows firefox's total memory usage, maybe they are doing lots of comparisons.
ngrilly 10y ago
Anybody knows what changed in Firefox?
- scholia 10y ago
  Maybe the pages got bigger? On my Windows 7 PC, FF still handles a lot more tabs than Chrome, typically 2x or 3x as many. Where Firefox falls over is with really heavy pages, such as infinite-scrolling image/gif sites. It's much better than it used to be, but it's still vulnerable. With Chrome, pages fail to load (giving a blank page) and the Flash plug-in crashes. The browser does stay up, but the effect is the same: you have to restart it.
basch 10y ago
firefox was stable but the chrome/ux hung if a tab hung. googlechrome was always responsive if a tab went berzerk.

hepta 10y ago

My god, I feel much better with my puny abuse.

joantune 10y ago
ditto!

scholia 10y ago

I'm amazed you can load that many tabs in Chrome. I got to 608 in Firefox (in 4GB) but that's with most of them suspended. And Firefox makes it much easier to find the tabs you want..... Incidentally, recent builds of the Chromium-based Vivaldi browser had this suspend feature before Chrome did. As did some Chrome extensions, of course.

insulanian 10y ago

I'm genuinely interested in the reasons people maintain so many tabs open. What type of workflow you have when you end up with so much stuff open? How do you get back to some of those tabs? Wouldn't it be easier to just google it again when you need it instead of having it lingering around and wasting your HW resources?

scholia 10y ago
They accumulate. Every day there are two or three pages you intend to read later, so you leave them open. A month later, you have an extra 100 tabs loaded. After six months, you have 600. There are also clusters of tabs associated with some research you were doing but didn't quite finish. Then the problem is it would take a couple of days to go through all the waiting tabs and shut them down, and you don't have a couple of days to spare. Eventually you just save them all out as a session and start again, and hope you will learn from your mistakes ;-) I've switched from FF/Chrome to FF/Vivaldi because it has much better ways to handle tabs and bookmarks than Chrome does. Vivaldi does tab stacking, for example.
- nightcracker 10y ago
  Maybe a 'read later' extension could help you? Something longer-term than a tab, but shorter-term than a bookmark.
  - scholia 10y ago
    Yes. What I do now is save the page as an mhtml file so I can read it later without having to find it again. (Chrome should really offer better mhtml support.)
  - burfog 10y ago
    not going to touch an extension Extensions tend to break with browser updates. Extensions tend to cause slowness. Nobody wants your bug report if you are running an extension.
  - burfog 10y ago

oneweekwonder 10y ago

I would recommend you try Tab Outliner[0]. It has a bit of a learning curve and adjust your workflow. [0]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabs-outliner/eggkanocgddhmamlbiijnphhppkpkmkl?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabs-outliner/eggk...

JustSomeNobody 10y ago

I create a folder called ReadMe. In it I dump everything I want to read later. Every month I clean it; if I haven't read it by then, it wasn't that important.

joantune 10y ago

An extension called 'OneTab' might be of interest to you. You can put hundreds of those tabs into just one that becomes a list, and then save it with the name 'house prosepcts'

hga 10y ago
I tried that one, and it is indeed good, but see my other reply about how spacial organization works best for me. One Tab just didn't hit the sweet spot my normal system achieves, again, for me.
ja27 10y ago
I used a combination of OneTab, The Great Suspender, and Evernote. I let The Great Suspender keep my memory footprint down but every week or so I scan through my tabs and throw as many as I can into Evernote with tags. Anything left over I can generate a OneTab page and Evernote that whole page of links at once.