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False, Safari comes pre-installed on macs. Firefox comes pre-installed on linux and was the first open source browser and was adopted by many for this. Chrom

False, Safari comes pre-installed on macs. Firefox comes pre-installed on linux and was the first open source browser and was adopted by many for this. Chrome is advertised all over Googles network of sites telling non tech people that they will see youtube and other sites better with chome. Opera is just there and sadly forgotten.

noarchy 17y ago
I remember the surprise that I experienced when Opera suddenly appeared on my Macbook. I had no idea how it happened, until I did some research and discovered that it gets installed with the Adobe CS.
- CoryMathews 17y ago
  uh... You sure about that? Opera did not install when I installed Abobe CS.
  - blasdel 17y ago
    There were ancient versions of the free Opera.app buried inside the app bundles for several programs in the Adobe Suite at least through CS3. If I remember correctly, both Help Viewer and Bridge wrap Opera. They hid it from the user, but not from LaunchServices -- right click on an html file, open with, and there would be at least one copy of Opera there. Launching it would reveal it to be from back when the free version had a banner ad in the browser chrome... Acrobat Professional had a full copy of MySQL included in its bundle, and there'd be a mysqld process running whenever it was. When they switch to WebKit, they'll probably bundle their whole own copy of that too, probably via their Air runtime.
Fixnum 17y ago
My awareness of Opera comes mostly from the fact that their people are always the ones complaining to the European Commission about Microsoft. "Not that Microsoft isn't loathsome ...", but that's not the sort of publicity that's given me a great urge to try their browser.
- endtime 17y ago
  I have been using Opera for a year or two now, and yes, I wasn't very impressed by their complaint to the EU. I don't even think Microsoft is loathsome. If you don't know anything about Opera, I suggest you install it and find out.

noarchy 17y ago

I remember the surprise that I experienced when Opera suddenly appeared on my Macbook. I had no idea how it happened, until I did some research and discovered that it gets installed with the Adobe CS.

CoryMathews 17y ago
uh... You sure about that? Opera did not install when I installed Abobe CS.
- blasdel 17y ago
  There were ancient versions of the free Opera.app buried inside the app bundles for several programs in the Adobe Suite at least through CS3. If I remember correctly, both Help Viewer and Bridge wrap Opera. They hid it from the user, but not from LaunchServices -- right click on an html file, open with, and there would be at least one copy of Opera there. Launching it would reveal it to be from back when the free version had a banner ad in the browser chrome... Acrobat Professional had a full copy of MySQL included in its bundle, and there'd be a mysqld process running whenever it was. When they switch to WebKit, they'll probably bundle their whole own copy of that too, probably via their Air runtime.

Fixnum 17y ago

My awareness of Opera comes mostly from the fact that their people are always the ones complaining to the European Commission about Microsoft. "Not that Microsoft isn't loathsome ...", but that's not the sort of publicity that's given me a great urge to try their browser.

endtime 17y ago
I have been using Opera for a year or two now, and yes, I wasn't very impressed by their complaint to the EU. I don't even think Microsoft is loathsome. If you don't know anything about Opera, I suggest you install it and find out.