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Why would you go to the police?! This is an employment matter, not a criminal matter. And she needs to tell the boss, because she wants to head off retaliation

by kaitai 10y ago

Why would you go to the police?! This is an employment matter, not a criminal matter. And she needs to tell the boss, because she wants to head off retaliation in the workplace. I get tired of hearing these excuses about age, background, I didn't know what the word meant, in my old workplace I got to harass ladies all the time and it was fine. Just act like a professional. I'd even give the guy a pass if he said, "Look, I'm interested in you and I'd like to go on a date. If you're not interested, just say so and I won't mention it again." At least that's polite, instead of all this textbook boundary testing.

gkya 10y ago
> Why would you go to the police?! This is an employment matter, not a criminal matter. When you call it sexual harassment it's criminal. Otherwise you're basically saying that sexual harassment is not a crime. With regards to going to the boss, I'm perplexed with the role of the boss and the company in an interaction between two adults. Maybe that's a cultural issue, but I think it's the court's job to decide if an action was a sexual harassment or not, not some boss', neither a lawyers (If lawyers were to decide on cases, oh dear god...). > I get tired of hearing these excuses about age, background, I didn't know what the word meant [...] Well you can get tired of many things, but at the end of the day people need to be educated somehow, nobody is born a polite, educated, pleasurable person, one becomes so. And remember, we're not talking about a rape here, a stupid interaction instead. > [...] in my old workplace I got to harass ladies all the time and it was fine. Oh you're so funny. But the topic is serious: calling a person a sexual offender.
- DanBC 10y ago
  > When you call it sexual harassment it's criminal. No. Sexual harassment is not always a criminal offence. > With regards to going to the boss, I'm perplexed with the role of the boss and the company in an interaction between two adults. Those two adults met at work, and this meeting was a work related meeting - she had said that. The employer has a duty of care to the employees, so that's why its gone to the boss. > Maybe that's a cultural issue, but I think it's the court's job to decide if an action was a sexual harassment or not If the boss doesn't do anything it might go to court. Or if the boss does something like fire the man, and he disagrees, it might go to court. > neither a lawyers (If lawyers were to decide on cases, oh dear god...). Well, if it goes to court everyone is going to have lawyers, right?
  - gkya 10y ago
    Where I am judges decide and lawyers defend. I didn't say lawyers are unnecessary, just they can't make the ultimate decision. For the rest of your comment my answer is my parent comment, I don't think I can elaborate further.
- jessaustin 10y ago
  When you call it sexual harassment it's criminal. IANAL, but if/when this is eventually made criminal, urban construction will basically cease when they haul all the construction workers off to prison for catcalling. The reason the employer is involved is that the employer wants to avoid getting sued. On the street, there is no employer, and no one to care if remarks are made, so long as those remarks don't constitute assault.

by kaitai 10y ago

gkya 10y ago

> Why would you go to the police?! This is an employment matter, not a criminal matter. When you call it sexual harassment it's criminal. Otherwise you're basically saying that sexual harassment is not a crime. With regards to going to the boss, I'm perplexed with the role of the boss and the company in an interaction between two adults. Maybe that's a cultural issue, but I think it's the court's job to decide if an action was a sexual harassment or not, not some boss', neither a lawyers (If lawyers were to decide on cases, oh dear god...). > I get tired of hearing these excuses about age, background, I didn't know what the word meant [...] Well you can get tired of many things, but at the end of the day people need to be educated somehow, nobody is born a polite, educated, pleasurable person, one becomes so. And remember, we're not talking about a rape here, a stupid interaction instead. > [...] in my old workplace I got to harass ladies all the time and it was fine. Oh you're so funny. But the topic is serious: calling a person a sexual offender.

DanBC 10y ago
> When you call it sexual harassment it's criminal. No. Sexual harassment is not always a criminal offence. > With regards to going to the boss, I'm perplexed with the role of the boss and the company in an interaction between two adults. Those two adults met at work, and this meeting was a work related meeting - she had said that. The employer has a duty of care to the employees, so that's why its gone to the boss. > Maybe that's a cultural issue, but I think it's the court's job to decide if an action was a sexual harassment or not If the boss doesn't do anything it might go to court. Or if the boss does something like fire the man, and he disagrees, it might go to court. > neither a lawyers (If lawyers were to decide on cases, oh dear god...). Well, if it goes to court everyone is going to have lawyers, right?
- gkya 10y ago
  Where I am judges decide and lawyers defend. I didn't say lawyers are unnecessary, just they can't make the ultimate decision. For the rest of your comment my answer is my parent comment, I don't think I can elaborate further.
jessaustin 10y ago
When you call it sexual harassment it's criminal. IANAL, but if/when this is eventually made criminal, urban construction will basically cease when they haul all the construction workers off to prison for catcalling. The reason the employer is involved is that the employer wants to avoid getting sued. On the street, there is no employer, and no one to care if remarks are made, so long as those remarks don't constitute assault.