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You've literally cherry picked sentences from your own links to avoid pointing out that - as I originally said - instances of harassment such as being called a

by anjc 10y ago

You've literally cherry picked sentences from your own links to avoid pointing out that - as I originally said - instances of harassment such as being called a "milf" must occur at a demonstrably frequent enough rate that it creates a hostile work environment. I.e. you must be harassed, not simply affronted. It appears that you realised this halfway through your post...? Anyway, there is no court in the western world which will deem this lone instance as "sexual harassment". I don't know why you're so insistent that I'm "wrong" regarding this, as if I'm the harasser or something. I have not suggested that this incident should be dismissed or taken lightly, in the least. I simply said that I'm shocked that 90% of this thread is saying he should be fired. In my country, not only would you not be fired, it would be illegal to fire you for this.

Loughla 10y ago
I was saying you were wrong that Milf doesn't mean mother I would like to fuck, and that it could be construed as harassing language.
- anjc 10y ago
  Again, I'm not saying that this wasn't unwanted behaviour, and I'm not saying that it wouldn't be construed as harassment if it continued. But in court (it wouldn't ever get to court but) they'd just say "but it's in the Webster's dictionary as a noun and is synonymous with 'attractive', it wasn't meant literally". Then in my country the guy would be able to sue for wrongful dismissal. I get what you're saying though.
  - runako 10y ago
    I got sucked far enough into this thread and its references to MILF in the dictionary that I became curious as to whether Webster's actually includes MILF. I don't have a printed copy of Webster's handy, and it's not in webster.com. Dictionary.com has it as follows: noun, Slang: Vulgar. 1. an attractive older woman, usually a mother, who is regarded as a sexual object by a younger man. Origin of MILF Expand M(other) I(‘d) L(ike) to F(uck) Oxford online is roughly the same. I'm not sure I'd want either of those read to a jury as part of a description of conduct I chose (as a manager) to ignore.
    - anjc 10y ago
      Every year here in the UKish area the media makes a big deal about what words are being added by the big-wig printed dictionaries. Mostly because, as time goes on, the only words that get added are 'funny' like...YOLO...words like that. We have different main dictionaries to the US, Oxford English and Chambers, for example, and milf is in all of them as a noun and has been in some for a long time. So I mean, if even the dictionary says that it's a noun and only that its origin was an acronym which was made a generation ago, I think it's fair to say that anybody could legitimately plead ignorance here, if needs be. Like I've heard people on TV calling their family members Milfs even, and "incest" doesn't immediately spring to my mind. I feel like people here are just pretending that they don't know it, effectively, now simply means "attractive" so that they can attack the guy in OP's post. You wouldn't need to have a jury read it because this case would never ever make it to court, and as I said elsewhere, in any modern country not only could you not fire this guy for this, but if you did fire him you would be probably on the hook for damages due to wrongful dismissal.
- Mz 10y ago
  You know, the first time I saw MILF, it was in a forum and someone there said it stood for "Mature Intelligent Lady Friend." It was literally years before I learned it meant "mom I would like to fuck." I was completely shocked when I did learn that definition. People can use offensive language and have no idea it means something offensive. This isn't just people making shit up to cover their ass so they can be abusive. Yes, that also happens. But it isn't the only possibility.

by anjc 10y ago

Loughla 10y ago

I was saying you were wrong that Milf doesn't mean mother I would like to fuck, and that it could be construed as harassing language.

anjc 10y ago
Again, I'm not saying that this wasn't unwanted behaviour, and I'm not saying that it wouldn't be construed as harassment if it continued. But in court (it wouldn't ever get to court but) they'd just say "but it's in the Webster's dictionary as a noun and is synonymous with 'attractive', it wasn't meant literally". Then in my country the guy would be able to sue for wrongful dismissal. I get what you're saying though.
- runako 10y ago
  I got sucked far enough into this thread and its references to MILF in the dictionary that I became curious as to whether Webster's actually includes MILF. I don't have a printed copy of Webster's handy, and it's not in webster.com. Dictionary.com has it as follows: noun, Slang: Vulgar. 1. an attractive older woman, usually a mother, who is regarded as a sexual object by a younger man. Origin of MILF Expand M(other) I(‘d) L(ike) to F(uck) Oxford online is roughly the same. I'm not sure I'd want either of those read to a jury as part of a description of conduct I chose (as a manager) to ignore.
  - anjc 10y ago
    Every year here in the UKish area the media makes a big deal about what words are being added by the big-wig printed dictionaries. Mostly because, as time goes on, the only words that get added are 'funny' like...YOLO...words like that. We have different main dictionaries to the US, Oxford English and Chambers, for example, and milf is in all of them as a noun and has been in some for a long time. So I mean, if even the dictionary says that it's a noun and only that its origin was an acronym which was made a generation ago, I think it's fair to say that anybody could legitimately plead ignorance here, if needs be. Like I've heard people on TV calling their family members Milfs even, and "incest" doesn't immediately spring to my mind. I feel like people here are just pretending that they don't know it, effectively, now simply means "attractive" so that they can attack the guy in OP's post. You wouldn't need to have a jury read it because this case would never ever make it to court, and as I said elsewhere, in any modern country not only could you not fire this guy for this, but if you did fire him you would be probably on the hook for damages due to wrongful dismissal.
Mz 10y ago
You know, the first time I saw MILF, it was in a forum and someone there said it stood for "Mature Intelligent Lady Friend." It was literally years before I learned it meant "mom I would like to fuck." I was completely shocked when I did learn that definition. People can use offensive language and have no idea it means something offensive. This isn't just people making shit up to cover their ass so they can be abusive. Yes, that also happens. But it isn't the only possibility.