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When it's claimed that the jobs are there it's just a matter of taking them then yes it's a claim tha the status quo is being fine.

mindslight 11y ago
Would you please point me to exactly where the original blog post, or the above comment by 'jackhack, assert that these jobs are currently available in the US? There's really two independent facets to this subject. One is about the immediate state of things, which in the US is regulation artificially lowering the amount of jobs available (even minimum wage does this). The blog post does a good job exploring this. The second, which you seem more concerned about, is the trends of whether these types of jobs will continue to exist at all in the future. Which I will agree is questionable. The US basically has an accelerated view of the effects of automation, as outsourcing to cheaper countries has identical effects. Furthermore, our poor lack the table stakes for participation in our highly-regulated economy, as explored in the original post. I would point to broken employment and monetary policy that are actively further screwing up the economy and fostering the current go-big-or-stay-home environment. If we really have gotten much more productive, why is the standard "full time" workweek 40+ hours and not 15?
- ThomPete 11y ago
  The post have a comment by the author saying basically this: "I'm just pointing out that the jobs are here and those folks simply refuse to do them." Problem is that this is a phenomena you see everywhere regardless of system but in all liberal markets. The only thing thats consistent is the technology. The problem when you remove regulation (uber) you end up with lots of jobs that pay less until as with Uber they will all be automated away. This is the problem and ignoring it by trying to use the typical "there are plenty of jobs" as the Author does is simply refusing to deal with the reality as it is IMO.

mindslight 11y ago

Would you please point me to exactly where the original blog post, or the above comment by 'jackhack, assert that these jobs are currently available in the US? There's really two independent facets to this subject. One is about the immediate state of things, which in the US is regulation artificially lowering the amount of jobs available (even minimum wage does this). The blog post does a good job exploring this. The second, which you seem more concerned about, is the trends of whether these types of jobs will continue to exist at all in the future. Which I will agree is questionable. The US basically has an accelerated view of the effects of automation, as outsourcing to cheaper countries has identical effects. Furthermore, our poor lack the table stakes for participation in our highly-regulated economy, as explored in the original post. I would point to broken employment and monetary policy that are actively further screwing up the economy and fostering the current go-big-or-stay-home environment. If we really have gotten much more productive, why is the standard "full time" workweek 40+ hours and not 15?

ThomPete 11y ago
The post have a comment by the author saying basically this: "I'm just pointing out that the jobs are here and those folks simply refuse to do them." Problem is that this is a phenomena you see everywhere regardless of system but in all liberal markets. The only thing thats consistent is the technology. The problem when you remove regulation (uber) you end up with lots of jobs that pay less until as with Uber they will all be automated away. This is the problem and ignoring it by trying to use the typical "there are plenty of jobs" as the Author does is simply refusing to deal with the reality as it is IMO.