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Wisper's arguement here is basicly: you don't matter, and we arn't going to do anything to help you. And due to their walled garden, you can't do anything to h
by throwaway2048 11y ago
Wisper's arguement here is basicly: you don't matter, and we arn't going to do anything to help you.
And due to their walled garden, you can't do anything to help yourself either.
so much for "open source infrastructure for a centralized network now provides almost the same level of control as federated protocols"
Unless you mean control for Google.
- marssaxman 11y agoI see where you're coming from but I think you're being too harsh. I don't know Moxie personally, but he's been out there fighting the good fight since the '90s - I have a vague and possibly erroneous memory of having encountered him on the old cypherpunks list, back during the dawn of time. While I have had a frustrating experience with Signal, I have nothing but respect for Moxie's skill and his commitment to secure, private communication. Engineering is hard, everything is a tradeoff; I'm certain that nobody involved with Signal has any intention whatsoever of trying to sell us out to Google. They're undoubtedly looking at a complicated problem and trying to do a good job with it. It just happens that their particular choices aren't working for me.
- kijiki 11y agoSignal is open source, so you can just fork it to remove the dependency on GCM. In fact, someone already has, so you can just use it: https://fdroid.eutopia.cz/ https://fdroid.eutopia.cz/
- ymse 11y agoOpen Whisper Systems have asked LibreSignal to stop using their servers and may decide to shut it out. See https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37 https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37 and discussion upthread.