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This is going to stay popular for a while... "I have a high IQ" click

by napierzaza 17y ago

pw0ncakes 17y ago
Also, it gives people behind computers the opportunity to opine on the intricacies of knife fights.
- MrHyde 17y ago
  > Rules? In a knife fight? No rules.
  - jurjenh 17y ago
    Rule 1. Avoid the sharp edge...
    - Periodic 17y ago
      Rule 0. Bring a gun and friends. A friend of mine shared a bit of wisdom with me: "In a knife fight, everyone bleeds." I wonder how that could be applied to this metaphor.
      - modoc 17y ago
        Only if your opponent is evenly matched with you. Generally knife fights are like sword fights, being more skilled usually means a very short fight.
        X-Istence 17y ago
        No matter who is better skilled if you go into any knife fight, where you or your attacker has a knife and you are not prepared to bleed you are wrong.
        viraptor 17y ago
        Swords are much longer (unless you really liked Crocodile Dundee) - that means you're more likely to successfully parry or block if you're skilled. But a knife? Avoiding it and getting cut are the only options really.
        Periodic 17y ago
        In fencing, there is an odd thing called "right of way". It works like this, a touch is only valid if you presented your intent to attack and thus gained right of way. It is a very subtle thing, but it has a very important implications for the sport. It exists because the first person to score a touch gets the point. If right-of-way didn't exist then the right thing to do when your opponent goes for your head would be to poke him very quickly on the arm or torso and just take the blow to the head. If you hit him first, it would be your point. This is pretty silly though and would be an artifact of the stylization of fencing. No rational person would opt to get a small cut on the opponents arm or chest in exchange for a large gash on their head. In a bloody duel, 90% of your energy needs to be focused on not getting hit. It would be a hollow victory if you got yourself just as cut up as your opponent. This was always a problem when fencing with new fencers. They didn't understand the right of way and didn't know how to read your actions, so it was very easy to go for a blow and get slapped on the side for it. I'd get the point for having right of way, and I'd have to explain what a silly move it was. Yes, they hit me first, but they still got hit. It's even harder to parry a knife than a sword. Be ready to bleed.
        modoc 17y ago
        I've never fenced, but have done extensive knife fighting training both specifically and as part of jujitsu training. I've practiced a ton with rubber chalked knives, both armed and disarmed against an armed opponent. Untrained fighters are, in my experience, usually pretty easy to either disarm or to block their knife hand/arm with my non-knife hand. If they are VERY quick, I might take a minor slice on my hand or forearm, but I've never sparred against a non-specially trained opponent who's been able to either "kill" me, or prolong the fight more than a few seconds. Thankfully I have never been in a real knife to knife fight, so YMMV.
- keefe 17y ago
  run away unless you have special training is solid
  - kilps 17y ago
    If you're confronted by guys with knives you're going to run away? It's generally safer to give them what they want and be done with it.
    - pw0ncakes 17y ago
      I'd give them the money and then back away, maintaining eye contact. Running shows fear, and people are more likely to be killed (in war, anyway) on retreat, because it's easier to kill someone if you don't see the person's face.
      - jrockway 17y ago
        On the other hand, people that have moved, by running or otherwise, to a different location are pretty difficult to kill with a knife.
        donaq 17y ago
        On the other other hand, knives can be thrown, usually faster than you can run.
        viraptor 17y ago
        I wouldn't expect a Joe random robber a) to carry a knife usable for throwing; b) to know how to throw that knife. Most knives are as useful as rocks, when thrown. Although in a real situation you might not want to test anything from this thread, because you could be very unlucky.
        donaq 17y ago
        I don't know, being hit hard by a rock would probably throw me off balance.
- MicahWedemeyer 17y ago
  But surely a couple hundred hours of Halo plus a couple weeks in a martial arts class (plus the aforementioned high IQ, of course) are enough to armchair-quarterback a knife fight, right?
oconnore 17y ago
I am going to up vote this, and even comment so that I feel less guilty for doing exactly what napierzaza accuses. As a bonus, I will even feel intellectually superior by agreeing with his meta-analysis of the situation.

This is going to stay popular for a while... "I have a high IQ" click

pw0ncakes 17y ago

Also, it gives people behind computers the opportunity to opine on the intricacies of knife fights.

MrHyde 17y ago
> Rules? In a knife fight? No rules.
- jurjenh 17y ago
  Rule 1. Avoid the sharp edge...
  - Periodic 17y ago
    Rule 0. Bring a gun and friends. A friend of mine shared a bit of wisdom with me: "In a knife fight, everyone bleeds." I wonder how that could be applied to this metaphor.
    - modoc 17y ago
      Only if your opponent is evenly matched with you. Generally knife fights are like sword fights, being more skilled usually means a very short fight.
      - X-Istence 17y ago
        No matter who is better skilled if you go into any knife fight, where you or your attacker has a knife and you are not prepared to bleed you are wrong.
      - viraptor 17y ago
        Swords are much longer (unless you really liked Crocodile Dundee) - that means you're more likely to successfully parry or block if you're skilled. But a knife? Avoiding it and getting cut are the only options really.
      - Periodic 17y ago
        In fencing, there is an odd thing called "right of way". It works like this, a touch is only valid if you presented your intent to attack and thus gained right of way. It is a very subtle thing, but it has a very important implications for the sport. It exists because the first person to score a touch gets the point. If right-of-way didn't exist then the right thing to do when your opponent goes for your head would be to poke him very quickly on the arm or torso and just take the blow to the head. If you hit him first, it would be your point. This is pretty silly though and would be an artifact of the stylization of fencing. No rational person would opt to get a small cut on the opponents arm or chest in exchange for a large gash on their head. In a bloody duel, 90% of your energy needs to be focused on not getting hit. It would be a hollow victory if you got yourself just as cut up as your opponent. This was always a problem when fencing with new fencers. They didn't understand the right of way and didn't know how to read your actions, so it was very easy to go for a blow and get slapped on the side for it. I'd get the point for having right of way, and I'd have to explain what a silly move it was. Yes, they hit me first, but they still got hit. It's even harder to parry a knife than a sword. Be ready to bleed.
        modoc 17y ago
        I've never fenced, but have done extensive knife fighting training both specifically and as part of jujitsu training. I've practiced a ton with rubber chalked knives, both armed and disarmed against an armed opponent. Untrained fighters are, in my experience, usually pretty easy to either disarm or to block their knife hand/arm with my non-knife hand. If they are VERY quick, I might take a minor slice on my hand or forearm, but I've never sparred against a non-specially trained opponent who's been able to either "kill" me, or prolong the fight more than a few seconds. Thankfully I have never been in a real knife to knife fight, so YMMV.
keefe 17y ago
run away unless you have special training is solid
- kilps 17y ago
  If you're confronted by guys with knives you're going to run away? It's generally safer to give them what they want and be done with it.
  - pw0ncakes 17y ago
    I'd give them the money and then back away, maintaining eye contact. Running shows fear, and people are more likely to be killed (in war, anyway) on retreat, because it's easier to kill someone if you don't see the person's face.
    - jrockway 17y ago
      On the other hand, people that have moved, by running or otherwise, to a different location are pretty difficult to kill with a knife.
      - donaq 17y ago
        On the other other hand, knives can be thrown, usually faster than you can run.
        viraptor 17y ago
        I wouldn't expect a Joe random robber a) to carry a knife usable for throwing; b) to know how to throw that knife. Most knives are as useful as rocks, when thrown. Although in a real situation you might not want to test anything from this thread, because you could be very unlucky.
        donaq 17y ago
        I don't know, being hit hard by a rock would probably throw me off balance.
MicahWedemeyer 17y ago
But surely a couple hundred hours of Halo plus a couple weeks in a martial arts class (plus the aforementioned high IQ, of course) are enough to armchair-quarterback a knife fight, right?

oconnore 17y ago

I am going to up vote this, and even comment so that I feel less guilty for doing exactly what napierzaza accuses. As a bonus, I will even feel intellectually superior by agreeing with his meta-analysis of the situation.