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Presently I think we undervalue creative endeavors. Something like this: http://www.wired.com/2016/05/mysteries-chickpea-water-magical-substitute-eggs-no-reall

Presently I think we undervalue creative endeavors. Something like this: http://www.wired.com/2016/05/mysteries-chickpea-water-magical-substitute-eggs-no-really/ http://www.wired.com/2016/05/mysteries-chickpea-water-magica... springs to mind as an example. Are there going to be unemployed truck drivers, and ditch diggers... yes. Will there be a larger place for craftsmenship, and art, I would sure hope so. The question is how we get through the transition.

maaku 11y ago
You're assuming machines can't be creative.
- AdamFernandez 11y ago
  While they may one day be 'creative', I feel this will be the last bastion of human capability beyond AI. Luckily, the interesting thing about creative endeavors is that they are often a unique synthesis of many things. AI may create wonderful art, music, entertainment, etc., but this does not mean things created by humans won't still be valuable to other humans. Things would just be created in parallel and in communion with AI. That being said, the percentage of the population that can 'create' for income/profit may be very small. Hopefully by that point, we will create for the intrinsic value of creating and sharing, and not for money.
- azinman2 11y ago
  They can only have the perspective that was possible from the program that created them -- ultimately they're constrained by the original programmer (artist). That set of possibilities might be very large, but it's still limited. Because art is expression, and expression is fundamental to humanity, machines won't be able to push art in the same way that humans can.
- ogreveins 11y ago
  They can but it's going to take a good long while before they have the same kind of access to their physical environment to experiment like humans can. Just think about the steps between figuring out that bean water can be used in meringues for instance; not just the mental ones, but the physical ones as well.
- thevibesman 11y ago
  I think there is a high likelihood that machine creativity or thought will be different from human creativity or thought.
- maus42 11y ago
  Probably yes, but people will also keep valuing stuff created by other people.
vernie 11y ago
I seem to recall at Watson project that analyzed recipes and discovered unconventional or unlikely combinations of ingredients. Ah, here it is: https://www.ibmchefwatson.com/community https://www.ibmchefwatson.com/community
- zer00eyz 11y ago
  First of all I love chefwatson. There is some interesting science out there too: http://phys.org/news/2015-03-network-science-tools-spices-indian.html http://phys.org/news/2015-03-network-science-tools-spices-in... The bean water thing is a bit different. Turning something that was basically garbage (or pig feed) into something that might have a lot of new and interesting uses, is a bit beyond Watson today.

maaku 11y ago

You're assuming machines can't be creative.

AdamFernandez 11y ago
While they may one day be 'creative', I feel this will be the last bastion of human capability beyond AI. Luckily, the interesting thing about creative endeavors is that they are often a unique synthesis of many things. AI may create wonderful art, music, entertainment, etc., but this does not mean things created by humans won't still be valuable to other humans. Things would just be created in parallel and in communion with AI. That being said, the percentage of the population that can 'create' for income/profit may be very small. Hopefully by that point, we will create for the intrinsic value of creating and sharing, and not for money.
azinman2 11y ago
They can only have the perspective that was possible from the program that created them -- ultimately they're constrained by the original programmer (artist). That set of possibilities might be very large, but it's still limited. Because art is expression, and expression is fundamental to humanity, machines won't be able to push art in the same way that humans can.
ogreveins 11y ago
They can but it's going to take a good long while before they have the same kind of access to their physical environment to experiment like humans can. Just think about the steps between figuring out that bean water can be used in meringues for instance; not just the mental ones, but the physical ones as well.
thevibesman 11y ago
I think there is a high likelihood that machine creativity or thought will be different from human creativity or thought.
maus42 11y ago
Probably yes, but people will also keep valuing stuff created by other people.

vernie 11y ago

I seem to recall at Watson project that analyzed recipes and discovered unconventional or unlikely combinations of ingredients. Ah, here it is: https://www.ibmchefwatson.com/community https://www.ibmchefwatson.com/community

zer00eyz 11y ago
First of all I love chefwatson. There is some interesting science out there too: http://phys.org/news/2015-03-network-science-tools-spices-indian.html http://phys.org/news/2015-03-network-science-tools-spices-in... The bean water thing is a bit different. Turning something that was basically garbage (or pig feed) into something that might have a lot of new and interesting uses, is a bit beyond Watson today.