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Ambient Intelligence is the phrase a lot of people are searching for when talking about this stuff. There's also a bunch of stuff about Second-order Cybernetics

by lowglow 10y ago

Ambient Intelligence is the phrase a lot of people are searching for when talking about this stuff. There's also a bunch of stuff about Second-order Cybernetics and Adaptive and Collaborative Multi-Agent Systems people should seek out and read. I've co-opted some terms and am now speaking of this as Second-order IoT. Where previously we were concerned about our personal networks and systems, this next wave will be concerned about how these systems work together and enlist one another to carry out some task or contract autonomously. Chaining these contracts is where the cool stuff comes in. Observing and influencing these systems and letting them create efficient networks on our behalf is the reason we should be building this. Agents are what people are talking about when discussing bots, and agents are basically the AI program that can conscript if not completely become part of the operating service on a device. Like little plug 'n play souls that carry along information about you and what you need within some context. For instance, when you step out of your autonomous vehicle, it can use a service (Playa) to look up physical interfaces offering recharging. It will be able to negotiate and transact a recharge on your behalf, then contract itself out to an uber-like service while you sleep to help pay for itself. I'm building the infrastructure/platform to support all of this, giving rise to a fully autonomous global logistics and supply chain -- I call it Playa (http://getplaya.com/ http://getplaya.com/) It's at first an open service exchange (marketplace) for autonomous intelligent agents to learn from us, and act on our behalf with other services and agents (both digital and physical). - If Artificial General Intelligence is the ruler, then Playa is its throne. Here is the project site http://getplaya.com/ http://getplaya.com/ and here is our Baqqer site if anyone wants to sign up and follow our progress: https://baqqer.com/projects/playa https://baqqer.com/projects/playa We've also started a meet-up group in San Francisco if you want to learn more: http://www.meetup.com/sfaiml/ http://www.meetup.com/sfaiml/ If you're interested in building this vision of the future, please reach out. I'm happy to grab a coffee in San Francisco and chat more about the current state as well as long term social and political implications of this if you'd like.

actionwords 10y ago
making the world a better place.
7373737373 10y ago
The next step would be doing these interactions - service registration, search, negotiation, usage, payments, certification etc. without a trusted, centralized intermediary. Have a look at the https://ethereum.org https://ethereum.org project to see how this could work out. If these kind of distributed systems for messaging, data distribution and storage as well as consensus scale, intelligent agents will be able to interact with services and each other faster, efficiently and more secure than before.
- lowglow 10y ago
  I definitely think ethereum is a cool project. Unfortunately, I'll be a contrarian and say I don't think the answer is a completely distributed system. I think there is a few mixed options, but the totality must collapse to a central authority at some point.
  - 7373737373 10y ago
    I'm not a maximalist either. Distributed networks are always less efficient than hierarchical systems at specific tasks. Some projects, such as the Bitcoin lightning network or Ethereums' Raiden therefore try to build faster payment or state networks on top of the distributed systems with them as point of last resolve in case of conflicts of cooperation or availability. Doing the inverse of this might also lead to interesting results.
    - lowglow 10y ago
      What are you working on now? Care to reach out and chat? I'd like to pick your brain about some things.
notliketherest 10y ago
Imagine we gave life to inanimate objects and those objects could speak to each other and us. As you described, our car would speak to a charging station. The charging station would advertise "I can charge you for a fee!" And the car could say "charge me here is money". Forget the "internet" of things, these objects only need to speak to other objects in their "domain". Imagine it like this: you walk down a street towards a sitting dog. Once you get close, the dog looks at you and observes you walking by. Once your sufficiently far away, the dog looks away and you're no longer in its domain. Have you thought about the " language" for this inter object communication? Essentially the "api". Words like "charge" and "you" and "money" in my example.
- lowglow 10y ago
  Exactly, this is a component of what we're planning. We'd need agents constantly updating their interfaces, locations, and all sensor data simultaneously. Also building some corpus of ontologies for these systems needs to exist -- and we're hoping to make it a community effort (a la freebase), as well as the recipes for actions between disparate systems or at least some reasonable way to address/connect the commonalities between interfaces. Next will be developing artificial intuition, being able to connect interfaces in new and thoughtful ways to produce some interesting/undiscovered/unsupervised outcome.

by lowglow 10y ago

actionwords 10y ago

making the world a better place.

7373737373 10y ago

The next step would be doing these interactions - service registration, search, negotiation, usage, payments, certification etc. without a trusted, centralized intermediary. Have a look at the https://ethereum.org https://ethereum.org project to see how this could work out. If these kind of distributed systems for messaging, data distribution and storage as well as consensus scale, intelligent agents will be able to interact with services and each other faster, efficiently and more secure than before.

lowglow 10y ago
I definitely think ethereum is a cool project. Unfortunately, I'll be a contrarian and say I don't think the answer is a completely distributed system. I think there is a few mixed options, but the totality must collapse to a central authority at some point.
- 7373737373 10y ago
  I'm not a maximalist either. Distributed networks are always less efficient than hierarchical systems at specific tasks. Some projects, such as the Bitcoin lightning network or Ethereums' Raiden therefore try to build faster payment or state networks on top of the distributed systems with them as point of last resolve in case of conflicts of cooperation or availability. Doing the inverse of this might also lead to interesting results.
  - lowglow 10y ago
    What are you working on now? Care to reach out and chat? I'd like to pick your brain about some things.

notliketherest 10y ago

Imagine we gave life to inanimate objects and those objects could speak to each other and us. As you described, our car would speak to a charging station. The charging station would advertise "I can charge you for a fee!" And the car could say "charge me here is money". Forget the "internet" of things, these objects only need to speak to other objects in their "domain". Imagine it like this: you walk down a street towards a sitting dog. Once you get close, the dog looks at you and observes you walking by. Once your sufficiently far away, the dog looks away and you're no longer in its domain. Have you thought about the " language" for this inter object communication? Essentially the "api". Words like "charge" and "you" and "money" in my example.

lowglow 10y ago
Exactly, this is a component of what we're planning. We'd need agents constantly updating their interfaces, locations, and all sensor data simultaneously. Also building some corpus of ontologies for these systems needs to exist -- and we're hoping to make it a community effort (a la freebase), as well as the recipes for actions between disparate systems or at least some reasonable way to address/connect the commonalities between interfaces. Next will be developing artificial intuition, being able to connect interfaces in new and thoughtful ways to produce some interesting/undiscovered/unsupervised outcome.