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>My reaction would be to just fire both. What did the existing employee do to deserve such treatment?
by Kristine1975 10y ago
>My reaction would be to just fire both.
What did the existing employee do to deserve such treatment?
- brianwawok 10y agoAt least he is owning up to not want to deal with adult babysitting, which is what this is.
- solids 10y agoThanks for saying that, so sorry for the moral downvotes
- boosting7669 10y agoMaybe the OP hasn't shared all information but if asking someone out and/or complimenting someone's appearance (albeit crudely) is now the equivalent of sexual harassment then be prepared for a rapid decline in population since no one will want to be the first one to make a move.
- pc86 10y agoYes, crudely remarking on a coworker's appearance then asking to "tell them a secret" (which is obviously going to be sexual in nature) is sexual harassment. If you can't see why, I think quite a few people are very happy you don't have plans for management.
- dragonwriter 10y agoContinuing sexual advances in a work context after being explicitly rebuffed is textbook harassment. This is, perhaps, nearly the most minor incident possible of that basic pattern, but it also pretty clearly fits it.
- boosting7669 10y agoLots of women love playing hard to get. They enjoy the chase. Giving up can be perceived as a sign of weakness. In any case, try explaining this situation to a real victim of rape or sexual harassment like my late grandmother who had to endure brutal, forceful rape at a young age as a Jew in Lithuania during WW2 and you'll see what a first world problem this is.
- dragonwriter 10y agoYou seem to be conflating sexual harassment, which is a work-related tort, with sexual assault and rape, which are very different characters of things. Yes, sexual harassment involves many things which fall far short of sexual assault. And, sure, maybe those are first world problems -- if you want to run a successful business in the first world, then you shouldn't be surprised by the need to address first world problems. And, sure, maybe some women like playing hard to get. The existence of those women does not create license to continue to pursue any woman who has turned you in the workplace. Nor does it remove the legal obligation of the employer to address such unwanted pursuit. What you do when pursuing women who are not your coworkers outside of your work environment, so long as it comports with the less restrictive laws applicable in such environments, is your own business.
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- Kristine1975 10y agoI wonder how your grandmother would feel about you bringing her into this discussion. Also just because there are worse things than verbal sexual harassment doesn't mean it should be ignored.
- logfromblammo 10y agoFind the pattern in the following list of numbers: 2
- Chris2048 10y agoDid that happen?
- rev_bird 10y ago>albeit crudely There you have it. I'd bet dollar to doughnuts that if this person had simply "expressed interest," I don't think there would have been an issue. But if a total stranger says they only want to "hang out" as friends, and your reaction is to call them a MILF and try to share some creepy "secret" with them, that's clearly an unwanted interaction.
- roflc0ptic 10y agoCalling someone a "MILF" is tantamount to saying "I'd like to fuck you." It has all of the same meaning: "You're a human (mother) I'd like to fuck." It's disingenuous to call this a compliment. Dudes on this thread are being histrionic, like, if I can't call a woman a MILF at work, what's next, the PC gestapo are going to prevent me from making eye contact with women. I can't stress this enough: if not being able to call a woman a MILF in your day to day life is an imposition, you really need to reevaluate how you talk to (and think about) women. I'll skip the moral appeal and go straight to self interest: on average, women just don't like that shit. You catch more flies with honey than you do unwelcome, overly sexually aggressive comments.
- nikki-9696 10y ago"since no one will want to be the first one to make a move." It's a work environment, not a bar. No one should normally need to make a "first move" in this context. Sure, work romances do sometimes happen, but I don't think our population is in any danger if they do not.
- boosting7669 10y agoThat ignores the fact that you've hired human employees. Maybe chemical castration should be a part of the onboarding process these days?
- Kristine1975 10y agoContrary to other animals humans are capable of keeping their instincts in check. In fact one could argue that this ability is what elevates humans above other primates. So being a human with a sex drive is no excuse for calling others MILF.
- dang 10y agoPlease stop. Edit: Actually we've banned this account for trolling.
- collyw 10y ago"work romances do sometimes happen" A quick google suggests that 38% of people have dated a co-worker.
- totony 10y agoI'd guess it's because she didn't handle it on her own, and instead relied on the manager. It's not your job to handle shit like that. If the person continues and it makes the work environment hostile than it might be, but not a one-time interaction like OP describes
- dragonwriter 10y agoActually, as it potentially a source of liability for the company, reporting it to management if not merely acceptable but good for the management. On the other hand, firing the reporting party for reporting the incident is clearly and blatantly illegal.
- totony 10y agoWhat's the name of the liability? I'd like to look it up