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Worse than that: "The only things that aren't working is the webcam and suspend / hibernate, but I don't really care about those and suspend even seems fixable.

Worse than that: "The only things that aren't working is the webcam and suspend / hibernate, but I don't really care about those and suspend even seems fixable." SRSLY?

vespakoen 10y ago
I go to great lengths to be able to run Linux, cannot live without a properly functioning tiling window manager. I don't mind that the webcam support is coming in a (couple of) year(s). As the laptop (re)boots in a couple of seconds, I don't mind the shutdown when I go to bed (eco friendly even ;))
- reitoei 10y ago
  > I go to great lengths to be able to run Linux What do you mean by this?
  - vespakoen 10y ago
    That I might have invested 100+ hours tweaking & patching stuff to get linux to run properly on apple hardware. a lot of this time was spent with getting nvidia drivers to work on my macbook pro 6,1 as it has a weird EFI version. (I don't mind because I like tinkering with stuff and learning about underlying causes of problems)
- andreasvc 10y ago
  > I don't mind the shutdown when I go to bed (eco friendly even ;)) What exactly is eco friendly about shutdown versus suspend where it uses < 1W? Besides, the wear and tear of repeated shutdown/powerup cycles might mean it is a less "eco" friendly option in the end. I don't think the way you run your laptop has appreciable environmental impact. The damage is in manufacturing and disposal. The best way to be eco friendly is to buy laptops that don't need to be replaced as often.
  - witty_username 10y ago
    > Besides, the wear and tear of repeated shutdown/powerup cycles might mean it is a less "eco" friendly option in the end. Assuming grandparent comment is shutting down the computer once or twice a day, it should be fine, I'm pretty sure the hard drive isn't going to fail from that.
  - vespakoen 10y ago
    I shouldn't try to be joking on the internet, especially not on HN, anyways, my "eco" comment was meant as a joke, hence the wink.
hamax 10y ago
I think it's amazing it works as well as it does on a completely closed hardware(macbook).
- zxcvcxz 10y ago
  Not only that, but even Microsoft can't get suspend working right across every model of laptop. I can link to countless threads on the Windows 10 forums where people are having issues with suspend, webcams, BSODs, anything you want really. OSX isn't expected to work on any hardware that isn't curated by apple. GNU/Linux apparently is held to the highest standards of all operating systems. Which is probably why it's the most used kernel/OS in the world and dominates nearly every market (mobile, IoT, servers, super computers, etc.).
pmlnr 10y ago
I've installed Centos7 and Debian8 on a slightly sick laptop (display light power is dead for some reasons. ) Both system with systemd; they managed to send the laptop to sleep. every. single. minute. suspend/hibernate not working is still better :D

Worse than that: "The only things that aren't working is the webcam and suspend / hibernate, but I don't really care about those and suspend even seems fixable." SRSLY?

vespakoen 10y ago

I go to great lengths to be able to run Linux, cannot live without a properly functioning tiling window manager. I don't mind that the webcam support is coming in a (couple of) year(s). As the laptop (re)boots in a couple of seconds, I don't mind the shutdown when I go to bed (eco friendly even ;))

reitoei 10y ago
> I go to great lengths to be able to run Linux What do you mean by this?
- vespakoen 10y ago
  That I might have invested 100+ hours tweaking & patching stuff to get linux to run properly on apple hardware. a lot of this time was spent with getting nvidia drivers to work on my macbook pro 6,1 as it has a weird EFI version. (I don't mind because I like tinkering with stuff and learning about underlying causes of problems)
andreasvc 10y ago
> I don't mind the shutdown when I go to bed (eco friendly even ;)) What exactly is eco friendly about shutdown versus suspend where it uses < 1W? Besides, the wear and tear of repeated shutdown/powerup cycles might mean it is a less "eco" friendly option in the end. I don't think the way you run your laptop has appreciable environmental impact. The damage is in manufacturing and disposal. The best way to be eco friendly is to buy laptops that don't need to be replaced as often.
- witty_username 10y ago
  > Besides, the wear and tear of repeated shutdown/powerup cycles might mean it is a less "eco" friendly option in the end. Assuming grandparent comment is shutting down the computer once or twice a day, it should be fine, I'm pretty sure the hard drive isn't going to fail from that.
- vespakoen 10y ago
  I shouldn't try to be joking on the internet, especially not on HN, anyways, my "eco" comment was meant as a joke, hence the wink.

hamax 10y ago

I think it's amazing it works as well as it does on a completely closed hardware(macbook).

zxcvcxz 10y ago
Not only that, but even Microsoft can't get suspend working right across every model of laptop. I can link to countless threads on the Windows 10 forums where people are having issues with suspend, webcams, BSODs, anything you want really. OSX isn't expected to work on any hardware that isn't curated by apple. GNU/Linux apparently is held to the highest standards of all operating systems. Which is probably why it's the most used kernel/OS in the world and dominates nearly every market (mobile, IoT, servers, super computers, etc.).

pmlnr 10y ago

I've installed Centos7 and Debian8 on a slightly sick laptop (display light power is dead for some reasons. ) Both system with systemd; they managed to send the laptop to sleep. every. single. minute. suspend/hibernate not working is still better :D