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Regardless of what definition of "art" you follow, I feel like trolling as described by labster can certainly be used for good. Labster himself describes the u
by sspiff 10y ago
Regardless of what definition of "art" you follow, I feel like trolling as described by labster can certainly be used for good.
Labster himself describes the use of trolling in tricking the reluctant apprentice into learning, or using it to sow strife to further policy making and bring about social change. "Good" is in the eye of the beholder, but I could certainly consider some of those things to be good some of the time.
There is a difference in abusing other people online for entertainment - "common trolling" as labster describes it - and the "sublime trolling" in which he sees art.
- a3n 10y ago> Regardless of what definition of "art" you follow, I feel like trolling as described by labster can certainly be used for good. Or at least for effect.
- blub 10y agoThe only problem is that "sublime trolling" is something he made up. Tricking apprentices to learn, come on. He's just playing devil's advocate in a not very convincing way.
- sspiff 10y agoFrom the essay: > but what trolling is, and how many its species are, and whether there is an excellence of the troll, is unclear. I happen to agree with Labster's point that trolling, in rare but excellent cases, can be a thing of art, and can be used with purpose.
- iopq 10y agohttp://thecodelesscode.com/ http://thecodelesscode.com/ almost all of these koans are masters trolling students
- Karunamon 10y agoHah! This was my first thought too. The whole purpose of a koan is to, one way or another, subvert (i.e. troll) your normal thought process so some important truth can be learned.
- zevkirsh 10y agoEXAMPLE; BANKSY. IF THERE IS NO ART IN BANKSY, THEN WHY DO PEOPLE PAY MILLIONS FOR HIS ART? HAHAHAHAHAH.......... metatrolling in this comment by dual useage of the word 'art' fully intended. but what banksy does seriously is not easy. and if you don't believe me, please watch 'exit through the gift shop', a truly sublime documentary, itself fake , but SO TRUE, totally worth watching twice.
- dang 10y agoPlease don't use all caps in comments here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html