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What? This type of test is commonplace in many other species, especially livestock. Are you saying that our genes have nothing to do with how we absorb and proc

What? This type of test is commonplace in many other species, especially livestock. Are you saying that our genes have nothing to do with how we absorb and process food?

jonsen 17y ago
Of course genes matter. But very few humans live and eat like animals. The sheer complexity of food processing byproducts and additives humans are offering their digestive tract makes the problem intractable.
- corruption 17y ago
  If it's intractable why do the field of nutrigenomics and personalized drugs see such large experimental effects, when the studies treatments usually only manipulate a single SNP target? BTW: Of course...but is not a logical argument.
rms 17y ago
The test can tell you to watch fat, watch carbs, or watch both. I can tell you to eat less fat and less carbs right now without you having to take a genetic test. Animals eat what you give them; for humans, willpower is the biggest challenge in successful dieting.
- corruption 17y ago
  Well you've obviously never been around animals then. I've worked on farms and availability of food beats willpower in most species, including humans. Read up on ego vs willpower research. Can you really tell me what type of diet is best based on my individual genetics without doing the test? Is there any clinical basis for that decision? BTW I worked for a biotech company that did extremely similar work in animals, and the differences were astounding once you worked out animals SNP's.
  - rms 17y ago
    I mean that that following the genetic test diet is not going to work in the median human. That person does not have enough willpower to not buy food that is bad for them. Is this product a D2C version of tests that nutritionists have been able to order for a long time? If my genes can tell me what my ideal diet is, I would want to know, but I'd want the information delivered by a qualified professional that could tell me the limitations of that information.
    - rms 17y ago
      Amway sells nutritional genetic tests. They're junk. http://scienceblogs.com/geneticfuture/2009/06/amway_sells_genetic_tests.php http://scienceblogs.com/geneticfuture/2009/06/amway_sells_ge... I would really appreciate it if someone can link me to a scientifically valid nutrigenomic test for humans.
      - corruption 17y ago
        Seriously, there are entire journals devoted to this. It's been a huge deal for almost ten years in industry/research. Are you sure you have looked yourself?
        rms 17y ago
        I'm not talking about industry/research, I'm talking about commercially available and meaningful tests for humans. All I can find are BS tests that try to sell you personalized nutritional supplements.

What? This type of test is commonplace in many other species, especially livestock. Are you saying that our genes have nothing to do with how we absorb and process food?

jonsen 17y ago

Of course genes matter. But very few humans live and eat like animals. The sheer complexity of food processing byproducts and additives humans are offering their digestive tract makes the problem intractable.

corruption 17y ago
If it's intractable why do the field of nutrigenomics and personalized drugs see such large experimental effects, when the studies treatments usually only manipulate a single SNP target? BTW: Of course...but is not a logical argument.

rms 17y ago

The test can tell you to watch fat, watch carbs, or watch both. I can tell you to eat less fat and less carbs right now without you having to take a genetic test. Animals eat what you give them; for humans, willpower is the biggest challenge in successful dieting.

corruption 17y ago
Well you've obviously never been around animals then. I've worked on farms and availability of food beats willpower in most species, including humans. Read up on ego vs willpower research. Can you really tell me what type of diet is best based on my individual genetics without doing the test? Is there any clinical basis for that decision? BTW I worked for a biotech company that did extremely similar work in animals, and the differences were astounding once you worked out animals SNP's.
- rms 17y ago
  I mean that that following the genetic test diet is not going to work in the median human. That person does not have enough willpower to not buy food that is bad for them. Is this product a D2C version of tests that nutritionists have been able to order for a long time? If my genes can tell me what my ideal diet is, I would want to know, but I'd want the information delivered by a qualified professional that could tell me the limitations of that information.
  - rms 17y ago
    Amway sells nutritional genetic tests. They're junk. http://scienceblogs.com/geneticfuture/2009/06/amway_sells_genetic_tests.php http://scienceblogs.com/geneticfuture/2009/06/amway_sells_ge... I would really appreciate it if someone can link me to a scientifically valid nutrigenomic test for humans.
    - corruption 17y ago
      Seriously, there are entire journals devoted to this. It's been a huge deal for almost ten years in industry/research. Are you sure you have looked yourself?
      - rms 17y ago
        I'm not talking about industry/research, I'm talking about commercially available and meaningful tests for humans. All I can find are BS tests that try to sell you personalized nutritional supplements.