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If "feels safe" is our goal, we're gonna be chasing those taillights forever. :/ I live on an incredibly well lit block in a very well lit part of SF. [0] I'm

If "feels safe" is our goal, we're gonna be chasing those taillights forever. :/ I live on an incredibly well lit block in a very well lit part of SF. [0] I'm a couple of blocks away from a substantially less well lit block. [1] It's much more enjoyable to walk through the less well lit block than the more well lit ones. I expect that it's significantly nicer for the folks living in the apartments on that block, too. Light pollution also affects people who aren't astronomers. :( [0] Seriously, you can easily read a book on the street in just about any part of the TL. On my block, the fixtures are 50->75% as bright as daylight. [1] That is to say, you'd have to strain your eyes to read a book on that section of the street.

bluthru 11y ago
>It's much more enjoyable to walk through the less well lit block than the more well lit ones. I'm guessing this isn't the Tenderloin.
- simoncion 11y ago
  It's as much the North TL as my block is. The "dark" block is actually unique in the area; the surrounding blocks are significantly more well lit. You have to travel significantly deeper into Nob Hill to find more blocks that are that dark. I often idly wonder if it's kept that dark because of the tranny (and non-trans [0]) hookers that work the area. [0] Does it count as trans if it's only crossdressing? Labels are weird, man. :)
  - simoncion 11y ago
    To the downvoters: You should understand that I don't see the drug dealers and prostitutes on the streets as a blight on the city, but rather as business men and women who are often rather pleasant to talk to. :-) I strongly suspect that the TL is where dealers and prostitutes are encouraged to move to by the SFPD. (Largely because the TL turns into an open-air drug market around midday and an open-air drug and prostitution market towards the evening, and has continuously done so for the past ~5.5 years I've been living here.) This is -in my eyes- a positive feature rather than a bug.
mmel 11y ago
>Seriously, you can easily read a book on the street in just about any part of the TL. On my block, the fixtures are 50->75% as bright as daylight. I HIGHLY doubt that.Sunlight provides ~98,000 lux[1], while common street lighting is around 15 lux [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight [2] https://www.use-ip.co.uk/datasheets/lux_light_level_chart.pdf https://www.use-ip.co.uk/datasheets/lux_light_level_chart.pd...
- Aeolos 11y ago
  Perceived brightness after pupil dilation is what matters. If you can easily read a book then it's already too bright to sleep.

bluthru 11y ago

>It's much more enjoyable to walk through the less well lit block than the more well lit ones. I'm guessing this isn't the Tenderloin.

simoncion 11y ago
It's as much the North TL as my block is. The "dark" block is actually unique in the area; the surrounding blocks are significantly more well lit. You have to travel significantly deeper into Nob Hill to find more blocks that are that dark. I often idly wonder if it's kept that dark because of the tranny (and non-trans [0]) hookers that work the area. [0] Does it count as trans if it's only crossdressing? Labels are weird, man. :)
- simoncion 11y ago
  To the downvoters: You should understand that I don't see the drug dealers and prostitutes on the streets as a blight on the city, but rather as business men and women who are often rather pleasant to talk to. :-) I strongly suspect that the TL is where dealers and prostitutes are encouraged to move to by the SFPD. (Largely because the TL turns into an open-air drug market around midday and an open-air drug and prostitution market towards the evening, and has continuously done so for the past ~5.5 years I've been living here.) This is -in my eyes- a positive feature rather than a bug.

mmel 11y ago

>Seriously, you can easily read a book on the street in just about any part of the TL. On my block, the fixtures are 50->75% as bright as daylight. I HIGHLY doubt that.Sunlight provides ~98,000 lux[1], while common street lighting is around 15 lux [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight [2] https://www.use-ip.co.uk/datasheets/lux_light_level_chart.pdf https://www.use-ip.co.uk/datasheets/lux_light_level_chart.pd...

Aeolos 11y ago
Perceived brightness after pupil dilation is what matters. If you can easily read a book then it's already too bright to sleep.