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“I am the equivalent of someone who was gay in Mississippi in 1950,” Oh give me a F*ing break. You CHOOSE to be a conservative. You aren't born a conservativ

“I am the equivalent of someone who was gay in Mississippi in 1950,” Oh give me a F*ing break. You CHOOSE to be a conservative. You aren't born a conservative and face true harassment, discrimination, and death threats because of it. Oh, right thats what YOU would do to someone who is gay probably now if you could get away with it. You are being passed for jobs in academia partly because academia deals in truths and evangelical Christians usually have a world view lacking in many truths. Personally, yeah I would pass you for an academic job if I found out you were an evangelical christian. How can I trust you to know truths in your profession when you believe in complete nonsense like the earth began 2,000 years ago and that evolution doesn't exist. How can I trust you NOT to evangelize in the classroom? Isn't that the whole point of being an evangelical Christian? Get over it. Religious extremism in ALL FORMS is a cancer and needs to be eliminated from society. Join the rest of the modern world or be further relegated to the edge as you so rightfully deserve to be.

orasis 10y ago
Why does choice matter? I could choose to indulge my fabulous side and cross dress, but the social rejection wouldn't be any less painful. Yes, choices do have consequences, but social exclusion based on those choices can still be critiqued.
- brooklyndavs 10y ago
  >I could choose to indulge my fabulous side and cross dress Well, personally, I would say you are born with a fabulous side so you are just being true to yourself. Congrats and have fun! > Yes, choices do have consequences, but social exclusion based on those choices can still be critiqued. The problem is you are making a choice not only to believe in something completely void of fact (you can be ignorant if you want to be I guess) but you are also making a choice that HARMS society as a whole. When a person's choice guides them to discriminate a whole group of people based on some stories written a few thousands of years ago thats a choice that deserves to be critiqued. If your choice guides the people you vote for to be anti-science yeah, that choice deserves to be ridiculed.
  - teacup50 10y ago
    Just consider, for a moment, what you're doing in that last paragraph.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > Why does choice matter? Honestly, I don't think it does; traditional protected classes, after all, include things that are just as much choice as political ideology (particularly, religion.)
tropo 10y ago
Consider your own argument: "Oh give me a F*ing break. You CHOOSE to be a conservative. You aren't born a conservative and face true harassment, discrimination, and death threats because of it. Oh, right thats what YOU would do to someone who is gay probably now if you could get away with it." It's been shown that DNA is a pretty good predictor of being conservative or not. AFAIK, this hasn't yet been shown for being gay! Conservatives don't have a choice. Now that you know that conservatives are in fact born that way, at least more so than gays, can you spare some compassion for conservatives? You can make them feel really weird with affirmative action quotas for conservatives.
- brooklyndavs 10y ago
  > It's been shown that DNA is a pretty good predictor of being conservative or not. AFAIK, this hasn't yet been shown for being gay! Conservatives don't have a choice. Um what? There have been PLENTY of studies over the last few years indicating homosexuality is expressed either at a DNA level or as the brain is developing in utero. http://www.livescience.com/50058-being-gay-not-a-choice.html http://www.livescience.com/50058-being-gay-not-a-choice.html >It's been shown that DNA is a pretty good predictor of being conservative or not. First, show me where this has been studied. Peer reviewed please. Second, if your conservatism violates human rights, yeah thats a problem. Conservatism, in the US has been the excuse for slavery (the bible says we are better than them!), Jim Crow and segregation, interracial marriage, and now LGBT rights. Conservatives have been on the WRONG side of history on ALL of these issues.
  - burfog 10y ago
    This describes two papers on DNA predicting politics: http://www.medicaldaily.com/nature-versus-nurture-variants-drd4-gene-may-decide-if-youre-liberal-or-conservative-346740 http://www.medicaldaily.com/nature-versus-nurture-variants-d...

orasis 10y ago

Why does choice matter? I could choose to indulge my fabulous side and cross dress, but the social rejection wouldn't be any less painful. Yes, choices do have consequences, but social exclusion based on those choices can still be critiqued.

brooklyndavs 10y ago
>I could choose to indulge my fabulous side and cross dress Well, personally, I would say you are born with a fabulous side so you are just being true to yourself. Congrats and have fun! > Yes, choices do have consequences, but social exclusion based on those choices can still be critiqued. The problem is you are making a choice not only to believe in something completely void of fact (you can be ignorant if you want to be I guess) but you are also making a choice that HARMS society as a whole. When a person's choice guides them to discriminate a whole group of people based on some stories written a few thousands of years ago thats a choice that deserves to be critiqued. If your choice guides the people you vote for to be anti-science yeah, that choice deserves to be ridiculed.
- teacup50 10y ago
  Just consider, for a moment, what you're doing in that last paragraph.
dragonwriter 10y ago
> Why does choice matter? Honestly, I don't think it does; traditional protected classes, after all, include things that are just as much choice as political ideology (particularly, religion.)

tropo 10y ago

Consider your own argument: "Oh give me a F*ing break. You CHOOSE to be a conservative. You aren't born a conservative and face true harassment, discrimination, and death threats because of it. Oh, right thats what YOU would do to someone who is gay probably now if you could get away with it." It's been shown that DNA is a pretty good predictor of being conservative or not. AFAIK, this hasn't yet been shown for being gay! Conservatives don't have a choice. Now that you know that conservatives are in fact born that way, at least more so than gays, can you spare some compassion for conservatives? You can make them feel really weird with affirmative action quotas for conservatives.

brooklyndavs 10y ago
> It's been shown that DNA is a pretty good predictor of being conservative or not. AFAIK, this hasn't yet been shown for being gay! Conservatives don't have a choice. Um what? There have been PLENTY of studies over the last few years indicating homosexuality is expressed either at a DNA level or as the brain is developing in utero. http://www.livescience.com/50058-being-gay-not-a-choice.html http://www.livescience.com/50058-being-gay-not-a-choice.html >It's been shown that DNA is a pretty good predictor of being conservative or not. First, show me where this has been studied. Peer reviewed please. Second, if your conservatism violates human rights, yeah thats a problem. Conservatism, in the US has been the excuse for slavery (the bible says we are better than them!), Jim Crow and segregation, interracial marriage, and now LGBT rights. Conservatives have been on the WRONG side of history on ALL of these issues.
- burfog 10y ago
  This describes two papers on DNA predicting politics: http://www.medicaldaily.com/nature-versus-nurture-variants-drd4-gene-may-decide-if-youre-liberal-or-conservative-346740 http://www.medicaldaily.com/nature-versus-nurture-variants-d...