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a lot of people in the US. are christian but pretty moderate. they don't really think about it much or let it affect their behavior. And they believe in stuff l

a lot of people in the US. are christian but pretty moderate. they don't really think about it much or let it affect their behavior. And they believe in stuff like evolution. Evangelicals are fundamentalists. For a lot of evangelicals, religion is a central part of their life and motivates almost all their beliefs.

lobotryas 10y ago
Ok, but what dies that mean in practice? Does this mean I will receive a worse education from an evangelical professor? Should we check our surgeon's faith and political party preference because there is a higher chance of complication from being operated upon by a conservative evangelic surgeon as opposed to an agnostic liberal one? If the orientation or race of these people is irrelevant to them performing their duties, why is faith or political leaning relevant?
- thesimpsons1022 10y ago
  maybe. I had a teacher in middle school who was very religious and decided to skip the evolution chapter because "we didn't have time". It is almost never irrelevant. You know what George Bush said about Putin when he met him? He said he could tell that he was a great guy because he was wearing his grandmother's cross. If the leader of the free world can be tricked so easily because of his faith it is an issue. Especially when we know Putin hasn't worn the cross before or after. He figured that is all it took to fool the leader of the free world.
dragonwriter 10y ago
> Evangelicals are fundamentalists. No, they aren't. The Evangelical movement was a reaction against elements of the Fundamentalist movement in much the same way that the Fundamentalist movement was a reaction against liberal/modernist Christianity, and explicitly saw itself as between the two. (It covers, in practice, a wide range, and obviously the more exclusionary, more nearly Fundamentalist edge of the Evangelical community has the most visibility in media, which tends to be conflict-oriented, a problem which is exacerbated by the fact that the tarnishing and genericization of the "fundamentalist" label has probably led to actual Fundamentalists grabbing on to the Evangelical label without the substance.)
- esrauch 10y ago
  He is saying they are fundamentalists with a lower case f. They can still be less fundamentalist than a group literally called Fundamentalists and still be fairly fundamentalist.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    > I would describe myself as liberal, even by the already relatively liberal standards of coastal California, but I'm not sure incoherence and hypocrisy are things only the Republican party is guilty of. Which is still not true as a generalization by any meaningful definition of "fundamentalist". The Evangelical movement was precisely a reaction against the elements of the Fundamentalist movement that made "fundamentalist" a generic term of zealous, narrow-minded extremists.

lobotryas 10y ago

Ok, but what dies that mean in practice? Does this mean I will receive a worse education from an evangelical professor? Should we check our surgeon's faith and political party preference because there is a higher chance of complication from being operated upon by a conservative evangelic surgeon as opposed to an agnostic liberal one? If the orientation or race of these people is irrelevant to them performing their duties, why is faith or political leaning relevant?

thesimpsons1022 10y ago
maybe. I had a teacher in middle school who was very religious and decided to skip the evolution chapter because "we didn't have time". It is almost never irrelevant. You know what George Bush said about Putin when he met him? He said he could tell that he was a great guy because he was wearing his grandmother's cross. If the leader of the free world can be tricked so easily because of his faith it is an issue. Especially when we know Putin hasn't worn the cross before or after. He figured that is all it took to fool the leader of the free world.

dragonwriter 10y ago

> Evangelicals are fundamentalists. No, they aren't. The Evangelical movement was a reaction against elements of the Fundamentalist movement in much the same way that the Fundamentalist movement was a reaction against liberal/modernist Christianity, and explicitly saw itself as between the two. (It covers, in practice, a wide range, and obviously the more exclusionary, more nearly Fundamentalist edge of the Evangelical community has the most visibility in media, which tends to be conflict-oriented, a problem which is exacerbated by the fact that the tarnishing and genericization of the "fundamentalist" label has probably led to actual Fundamentalists grabbing on to the Evangelical label without the substance.)

esrauch 10y ago
He is saying they are fundamentalists with a lower case f. They can still be less fundamentalist than a group literally called Fundamentalists and still be fairly fundamentalist.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > I would describe myself as liberal, even by the already relatively liberal standards of coastal California, but I'm not sure incoherence and hypocrisy are things only the Republican party is guilty of. Which is still not true as a generalization by any meaningful definition of "fundamentalist". The Evangelical movement was precisely a reaction against the elements of the Fundamentalist movement that made "fundamentalist" a generic term of zealous, narrow-minded extremists.