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>Your eyes adapt, though. Not to the point where one would feel as safe on the right as they do to the left. >the right is more consistent overall That's bec

by bluthru 10y ago

>Your eyes adapt, though. Not to the point where one would feel as safe on the right as they do to the left. >the right is more consistent overall That's because of the fixtures--there's a reason they are causing lens flares while the left side isn't.

simoncion 10y ago
If "feels safe" is our goal, we're gonna be chasing those taillights forever. :/ I live on an incredibly well lit block in a very well lit part of SF. [0] I'm a couple of blocks away from a substantially less well lit block. [1] It's much more enjoyable to walk through the less well lit block than the more well lit ones. I expect that it's significantly nicer for the folks living in the apartments on that block, too. Light pollution also affects people who aren't astronomers. :( [0] Seriously, you can easily read a book on the street in just about any part of the TL. On my block, the fixtures are 50->75% as bright as daylight. [1] That is to say, you'd have to strain your eyes to read a book on that section of the street.
- bluthru 10y ago
  >It's much more enjoyable to walk through the less well lit block than the more well lit ones. I'm guessing this isn't the Tenderloin.
  - simoncion 10y ago
    It's as much the North TL as my block is. The "dark" block is actually unique in the area; the surrounding blocks are significantly more well lit. You have to travel significantly deeper into Nob Hill to find more blocks that are that dark. I often idly wonder if it's kept that dark because of the tranny (and non-trans [0]) hookers that work the area. [0] Does it count as trans if it's only crossdressing? Labels are weird, man. :)
    - simoncion 10y ago
      To the downvoters: You should understand that I don't see the drug dealers and prostitutes on the streets as a blight on the city, but rather as business men and women who are often rather pleasant to talk to. :-) I strongly suspect that the TL is where dealers and prostitutes are encouraged to move to by the SFPD. (Largely because the TL turns into an open-air drug market around midday and an open-air drug and prostitution market towards the evening, and has continuously done so for the past ~5.5 years I've been living here.) This is -in my eyes- a positive feature rather than a bug.
- mmel 10y ago
  >Seriously, you can easily read a book on the street in just about any part of the TL. On my block, the fixtures are 50->75% as bright as daylight. I HIGHLY doubt that.Sunlight provides ~98,000 lux[1], while common street lighting is around 15 lux [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight [2] https://www.use-ip.co.uk/datasheets/lux_light_level_chart.pdf https://www.use-ip.co.uk/datasheets/lux_light_level_chart.pd...
  - Aeolos 10y ago
    Perceived brightness after pupil dilation is what matters. If you can easily read a book then it's already too bright to sleep.
contravariant 10y ago
Am I the only one who doesn't feel safe when exposed to blindingly bright lights with lots of deep shadows around me? I'd much prefer a more evenly lit road, with lights that don't blast away any night vision you might have.

by bluthru 10y ago

simoncion 10y ago

If "feels safe" is our goal, we're gonna be chasing those taillights forever. :/ I live on an incredibly well lit block in a very well lit part of SF. [0] I'm a couple of blocks away from a substantially less well lit block. [1] It's much more enjoyable to walk through the less well lit block than the more well lit ones. I expect that it's significantly nicer for the folks living in the apartments on that block, too. Light pollution also affects people who aren't astronomers. :( [0] Seriously, you can easily read a book on the street in just about any part of the TL. On my block, the fixtures are 50->75% as bright as daylight. [1] That is to say, you'd have to strain your eyes to read a book on that section of the street.

bluthru 10y ago
>It's much more enjoyable to walk through the less well lit block than the more well lit ones. I'm guessing this isn't the Tenderloin.
- simoncion 10y ago
  It's as much the North TL as my block is. The "dark" block is actually unique in the area; the surrounding blocks are significantly more well lit. You have to travel significantly deeper into Nob Hill to find more blocks that are that dark. I often idly wonder if it's kept that dark because of the tranny (and non-trans [0]) hookers that work the area. [0] Does it count as trans if it's only crossdressing? Labels are weird, man. :)
  - simoncion 10y ago
    To the downvoters: You should understand that I don't see the drug dealers and prostitutes on the streets as a blight on the city, but rather as business men and women who are often rather pleasant to talk to. :-) I strongly suspect that the TL is where dealers and prostitutes are encouraged to move to by the SFPD. (Largely because the TL turns into an open-air drug market around midday and an open-air drug and prostitution market towards the evening, and has continuously done so for the past ~5.5 years I've been living here.) This is -in my eyes- a positive feature rather than a bug.
mmel 10y ago
>Seriously, you can easily read a book on the street in just about any part of the TL. On my block, the fixtures are 50->75% as bright as daylight. I HIGHLY doubt that.Sunlight provides ~98,000 lux[1], while common street lighting is around 15 lux [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight [2] https://www.use-ip.co.uk/datasheets/lux_light_level_chart.pdf https://www.use-ip.co.uk/datasheets/lux_light_level_chart.pd...
- Aeolos 10y ago
  Perceived brightness after pupil dilation is what matters. If you can easily read a book then it's already too bright to sleep.

contravariant 10y ago

Am I the only one who doesn't feel safe when exposed to blindingly bright lights with lots of deep shadows around me? I'd much prefer a more evenly lit road, with lights that don't blast away any night vision you might have.