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Given that evangelical is synonymous with believing something that is demonstrably false, I don't see why we should be clamoring to include such people among th

by curun1r 10y ago

Given that evangelical is synonymous with believing something that is demonstrably false, I don't see why we should be clamoring to include such people among those that will shape the way future generations think. Just because US Republicans are underrepresented or discriminated against does not mean that universities are not doing a good job of maintaining a diverse faculty. It could be argued (and has, many times over) that the spectrum between the Marxist and American Democratic parties is much more representative of the rest of the world's liberal-to-conservative spectrum than would be the US definition of liberal and conservative. Additionally, I would expect libertarians to be much better represented among faculty since their ideology is, at least, logically consistent and doesn't contain the hate/discrimination endemic to the Republican platform. I think Republicans need to face the fact that they just nominated someone who's entire platform lacks even basic critical thought. Even if you put aside how odious and xenophobic what Trump has proposed, it's basically impossible to implement any of it anyways and anyone with an ounce of critical reasoning skills would easily realize that. And the one area where colleges cannot compromise on the faculty is in the area of critical reasoning skills. More than anything else, the purpose of a college education is to learn critical reasoning skills.

drumdance 10y ago
Trump is not an evangelical. His popularity is more about frustration with career politicians than policy.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > Trump is not an evangelical. GP didn't say (or imply) that Trump is an evangelical; there was an implication in that post that lack of critical reasoning, which is a trait GP also ascribes to evangelicals, among the Republican electorate was a factor in Trump's success, though.
- ktRolster 10y ago
  Reminds me of Arnold, the Governator.
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dragontamer 10y ago
> I think Republicans need to face the fact that they just nominated someone who's entire platform lacks even basic critical thought. While Donald Trump has blown up the entire conservative base this year, this is fundamentally untrue. Read through the Growth and Opportunity project, written by key conservatives in 2012. http://goproject.gop.com/ http://goproject.gop.com/ There is a LOT of depth and understanding here that liberals miss out all the time. True, conservatives have blind spots in their policies. But liberals have blind spots all the same. And when you read good reports like the Growth and Opportunity Project, you start seeing the benefits of conservative thought. Conservatives are very local and have trust in the smallest, closest government to them. (So much so, they wish to remove powers from the Federal government to "give back to the States"). In part, its because local government is where the GOP and conservative values functions best. In particular, I found the chapter on Campaign Finance to be intriguing, because online you normally only see people who are against Citizens United. But you can see that the true conservative argument is far more nuanced and comes from a completely different perspective.
- curun1r 10y ago
  I didn't say that the Republican platform lacks basic critical thought, I said that Donald Trump's platform lacks basic critical thought. The wall is the best example. He wants to build a massive wall that will cost tens of billions of dollars. That wall ignores the fact that almost all illegal immigration comes from visa overstays rather than people walking across the border. And the wall would still be relatively easy to get over without someone guarding it. Last Week Tonight, a comedy show, did a pretty thorough dismantling [1] of the logic behind building it. Scientists, Engineers and Immigration officials would have an even easier time arguing against it. It's just a really stupid idea that he probably came up with watching Game of Thrones (Mexicans == Wildlings) and yet he's used it to help win the Republican nomination. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuaDG7_FBZ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuaDG7_FBZ8

by curun1r 10y ago

drumdance 10y ago

Trump is not an evangelical. His popularity is more about frustration with career politicians than policy.

dragonwriter 10y ago
> Trump is not an evangelical. GP didn't say (or imply) that Trump is an evangelical; there was an implication in that post that lack of critical reasoning, which is a trait GP also ascribes to evangelicals, among the Republican electorate was a factor in Trump's success, though.
ktRolster 10y ago
Reminds me of Arnold, the Governator.

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dragontamer 10y ago

> I think Republicans need to face the fact that they just nominated someone who's entire platform lacks even basic critical thought. While Donald Trump has blown up the entire conservative base this year, this is fundamentally untrue. Read through the Growth and Opportunity project, written by key conservatives in 2012. http://goproject.gop.com/ http://goproject.gop.com/ There is a LOT of depth and understanding here that liberals miss out all the time. True, conservatives have blind spots in their policies. But liberals have blind spots all the same. And when you read good reports like the Growth and Opportunity Project, you start seeing the benefits of conservative thought. Conservatives are very local and have trust in the smallest, closest government to them. (So much so, they wish to remove powers from the Federal government to "give back to the States"). In part, its because local government is where the GOP and conservative values functions best. In particular, I found the chapter on Campaign Finance to be intriguing, because online you normally only see people who are against Citizens United. But you can see that the true conservative argument is far more nuanced and comes from a completely different perspective.

curun1r 10y ago
I didn't say that the Republican platform lacks basic critical thought, I said that Donald Trump's platform lacks basic critical thought. The wall is the best example. He wants to build a massive wall that will cost tens of billions of dollars. That wall ignores the fact that almost all illegal immigration comes from visa overstays rather than people walking across the border. And the wall would still be relatively easy to get over without someone guarding it. Last Week Tonight, a comedy show, did a pretty thorough dismantling [1] of the logic behind building it. Scientists, Engineers and Immigration officials would have an even easier time arguing against it. It's just a really stupid idea that he probably came up with watching Game of Thrones (Mexicans == Wildlings) and yet he's used it to help win the Republican nomination. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuaDG7_FBZ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuaDG7_FBZ8